brexit britain :skull:

Well if that's a result of chlorinated chicken then what's our excuse

we have plenty of our own health issues without importing more :nono:

Fight back ,go veggie,you'll be healthier:hee:

You'll have to. When American big pharma comes here NHS drugs will be far more expensive

Tbh what you actually eat will still come down to personal choice... You can always go organic.

Tbh it's more complicated than that; the price will only increase if the American health insurance model comes with the big pharma. Of course with Tory governments that's always a risk, too.

Basically American drugs are so expensive because of the never ending insurance adjustments waltz between the hospitals / pharma companies / insurance companies.

Tbh tbh tbh. I'm tbh everything today tbh.

Lol if you can afford it?

True, but in all honesty our non-organic chicken is muck anyway. The hormones are more of a concern but if you're OK with eating cheap chicken currently, allowing it to be chlorinated realistically won't make a huge difference.

I'm more concerned about the pesticides they're likely to legalise when they have free reign.

Im not addressing chlorinated chicken per se as I think that is the least worrying of the three in the OP, but its what most who have responded have seemed to hone in on, at least you can wash off chlorine, growth hormones and pesticides are another matter

I have done Kazanne.
I've been moving to it since my late teens anyway.

TS has a point.Just because US chicken will be available to us doesn’t mean we’ll have to buy it.Just vote with your pockets and buy UK/Euro chicken.
Let the market decide.

In restaurants if enough people explicitly say they don’t want US chicken then the restaurants won’t use it.
Infact there may end up being signs and notes on the menus.
‘All our chicken is from non US sources’.

They can’t force it on people’s plates.
Consumer power.

They already like to mark fresh meat with "British", "Scottish" etc. as a selling point and I can't see that changing.

The main concern will be processed food I imagine, where to source of the meat is less clear. But honestly who is buying chikky nug-nugs expecting them to be the healthy additive-free choice? The problems in terms of individual consumption are only ever, as always, going to be from eating junk foods in excess.

If they change pesticide regulations to match the US, on the other hand, it's another story and quite a worrying one. It's not about what gets into the food, it's about the effect that these things are having on insect populations and pollenation.

That not the point though, we shouldn't be importing sub standard products after Brexit just to get 'a deal' otherwise the UK is being held hostage to an even worse scenario than we currently have....I thought the whole point of Brexit was that we held our own destiny in our hands, not that you best take this sub standard crap otherwise we aint playing ......the idea that Brexiteers are even on board with this scenario is pretty laughable...looks like a case of well obvs I won’t be eating it but some other mug can have the pleasure

Brexiteers are free marketeers, Fox wants zero import tariffs. That'd wipe out British agriculture and manufacturing.
All these factory workers voting for brexit are like turkeys voting for Christmas.
I'd laugh if it wasn't so tragic
People were conned. Nothing was said about that, only immigration.
And non eu immigration is already soaring.
But that's ok according to Gove bc now we have a democratic control. Bollox. UK always had control over non eu immigration. People were expecting reduction in numbers. One big con.

Well Brexit does allow us to accept chlorinated chicken where previously the EU barred it. Whether we want to or not is our own decision but I find it odd that it can excite passions so much when people very rarely look into the background of the food they eat, when they'd probably never known about this aspect of farming before now and when it's not exactly had disastrous effects in the US

Imo this is a completely trivial issue which has become a lightning rod for anti Brexit campaigners

It is an issue because as the USA is indicating trade deals with the USA could have some reliance on accepting these meats.

Which our governments have refused to do in line with EU guidelines on the issue.
If we do start breaking down our standards as to any food, just to acquire new trading deals.
What does that really say about us.

It's actually quite an issue, a choice too, however it is an issue relating to possible welfare of those pro or anti brexit who eat these types of meat.

No one has made much noise of even wanting USA imports of these meats before.
Being content with the standards we already have and not liking much the USA standards at all.
So is clearly an issue, for all meat eaters.

Yes but people act as if we'd be adopting some barbaric practice which will be disastrous for our food quality which is all just hyperbole. The US would strongly disagree with the EU that it lowers food standards so its within our gift to approach the issue independently and make our own decision now rather than being bound by what the EU had decided. If you actually read what the US ambassador said its quite reasonable:

Well that is certainly a spin on we are in control....

its very patronising to say the British consumer is not conscious of where their food comes from, since the BSE scandal consumers are very keen know where their food comes

Its all very well saying consumers will have a choice of what to buy, but this food will find its way into school dinners, hospitals and care homes where cost is the bottom line

The Americans saving the environment by pumping their cattle with hormones, wow that's some claim, I assume everyone washes their own vegetables before they eat them? so what they were previously washed in is immaterial? The advice is never to wash chicken before cooking

Good for you Joey,you soon get used to it,they have some lovely veggie foods now.

The reason for that, though, is that it invariably leads to "splashback" spreading the bacteria from raw chicken to the sink area / any nearby dishes or cutlery and that's where contamination occurs whereas if chicken is in date and properly cooked through there shouldn't really be any risk of food poisoning. Although a lot of people undercook chicken.

As you know Cherie I'm firmly anti-Brexit but I think this particular issue is a red herring; I have some concerns about American farming METHODS such as overuse of pesticide / use of pesticides banned here but that's an environmental concern. I honestly don't think there's anything at all wrong with the quality of US produced fresh food. The American health crisis (just like our own) is down to what's done with those products afterwards... i.e. their processed foods, which are full of vast quantities of high fructose corn syrup, MSG, hydrogenated fats and other chemical additives. That "extra-specially fat American" image that you see, that seems to be far less common across the rest of the world, is largely down to snacks full of corn syrup and hydrogenated fats being widely available and very cheap.

Should we not be learning from our past mistakes? Obesity in Britain is down to our love and import of many things American in particular their fast food chains, in this new dawn, and when 'we are in control of our own trade deals' the brave thing to do would be to pick and choose what we import, I don't know why you are saying its a red herring I was just listening to Liam Fox talking about this, and the alternative to not taking this type of product is to import more American organic but of course that wont be a money spinner now will it and won't be taken up by our Acadamys, hospitals and care homes, and again I reiterate not sure why everyone is foccused on chlorination when the other two issues are a far grimmer prospect

I disagree Cherie; obesity / diabetes crisis is caused by a combination of abundantly available processed food in supermarkets (which didn't used to be available), and poor mental health (which has always been a thing but is increasing). Emotionally healthy people don't become obese no matter what food is available. It's not the food.