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arista 15-04-2019 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10511111)
Read that twitter thread.


I already have

arista 15-04-2019 01:44 PM

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...s-brexit-nazi/

8min proper debate,


https://images.lbc.co.uk/images/4667...JMF7RjS2Mu3-Q=

arista 15-04-2019 03:20 PM


arista 15-04-2019 03:23 PM


Livia 15-04-2019 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10510976)
The only detail you forgot to mention is that Stalinism and Maoism are discredited and irrelevant ideologies whereas nazism and far right are resurgent.


The difference between them is that Germany has owned its grubby past. I don't see anyone on TV spouting Nazi ideology. but Communist ideology is embraced for some reason. Why the Stalin flags at Labour meetings if it's a discredited and irrelevant ideology? And you know, Communism is alive and well in China, Laos, Vietnam...

It's not like anyone is claiming that the far right is good. Far from it. But this thread is about David Lammy… and instead of debate there is example after example of wrongdoing in the Tory party, as if one cancels out the other.

reece(: 15-04-2019 03:48 PM


Livia 15-04-2019 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10511014)
Well done, the slimmest of reapers for providing some background information.
It looks like Lammy knew what he was talking about.

Background information? LOL......

Crimson Dynamo 15-04-2019 04:03 PM

not one member in a very left wing forum supporting him?

what does that tell you about his troll attention seeking comments?

:rolleyes:

joeysteele 15-04-2019 04:16 PM

I find David Lammy nauseating.

His comments do nothing constructive and frankly they are pathetic and totally uncalled for.

Crimson Dynamo 15-04-2019 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10511348)
I find David Lammy nauseating.

His comments do nothing constructive and frankly they are pathetic and totally uncalled for.

well said joey

The Slim Reaper 15-04-2019 04:23 PM

Did you start a thread when Gove called those warning of the cost of brexit, Nazi's?

Crimson Dynamo 15-04-2019 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10511356)
Did you start a thread when Gove called those warning of the cost of brexit, Nazi's?

i expect Arista did yes

but its not the same comparison as i recall - Gove was more stating that "experts" were being "paid" to spout a version of events rather than say xy and z is behaving like a Nazi :shrug:

The Slim Reaper 15-04-2019 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10511373)
i expect Arista did yes

but its not the same comparison as i recall - Gove was more stating that "experts" were being "paid" to spout a version of events rather than say xy and z is behaving like a Nazi :shrug:

Because Nazi's were well known for their use of paid labour? :shrug:

arista 15-04-2019 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10511356)
Did you start a thread when Gove called those warning of the cost of brexit, Nazi's?


No

Cherie 15-04-2019 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10511397)
No

:joker:

The Slim Reaper 15-04-2019 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10511397)
No

Exactly.

Twosugars 15-04-2019 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10511298)
The difference between them is that Germany has owned its grubby past. I don't see anyone on TV spouting Nazi ideology. but Communist ideology is embraced for some reason. Why the Stalin flags at Labour meetings if it's a discredited and irrelevant ideology? And you know, Communism is alive and well in China, Laos, Vietnam...

It's not like anyone is claiming that the far right is good. Far from it. But this thread is about David Lammy… and instead of debate there is example after example of wrongdoing in the Tory party, as if one cancels out the other.

You don't see how alt-right is insinuating its way into normal politics around the world? Even here? Well :shrug:

LaLaLand 17-04-2019 07:46 PM

Just saw this on FB and had to share :laugh3:



Idiot.

Liam- 17-04-2019 07:49 PM

He needs sacking asap

hijaxers 17-04-2019 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10514746)
He needs sacking asap

Let him keep making a clown of himself ~ Karma will come for him.

Livia 19-04-2019 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10511449)
You don't see how alt-right is insinuating its way into normal politics around the world? Even here? Well :shrug:

Of course I see it. And I see the scale of it and the intelligence of it, and I am far more worried about the rise of the alt Left . People like myself who are on the right can see the danger, the lunacy of the alt Right, whereas people on the left will excuse and battle for the alt Left, who are FAR more organised and come in much bigger numbers.

Twosugars 19-04-2019 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10517626)
Of course I see it. And I see the scale of it and the intelligence of it, and I am far more worried about the rise of the alt Left . People like myself who are on the right can see the danger, the lunacy of the alt Right, whereas people on the left will excuse and battle for the alt Left, who are FAR more organised and come in much bigger numbers.

Then we fundamentally disagree in our assessments. Far left has no chance of influencing electorate. It's not a lurch to far left that has taken place in the US and many countries of Europe. It's not far left parties who win sizeable voting shares everywhere. It's not far left who are busy spreading fake news and ads online.

Oliver_W 19-04-2019 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10517626)
Of course I see it. And I see the scale of it and the intelligence of it, and I am far more worried about the rise of the alt Left . People like myself who are on the right can see the danger, the lunacy of the alt Right, whereas people on the left will excuse and battle for the alt Left, who are FAR more organised and come in much bigger numbers.

Yeah, I'm more worried about the damage to the West which would be caused by demographic change from having too many people from backwards cultures in the name of "compassion", than I am a bunch of racists who have no realistic chance of achieving anything.

The Slim Reaper 19-04-2019 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10517656)
Yeah, I'm more worried about the damage to the West which would be caused by demographic change from having too many people from backwards cultures in the name of "compassion",

Part 1, let me introduce you to...

Part 2

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10517656)
than I am a bunch of racists who have no realistic chance of achieving anything.

Yeah, those pesky racists eh, ruining for good honest inclusive types like you.

Oliver_W 19-04-2019 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10517742)
Part 1, let me introduce you to...

Part 2



Yeah, those pesky racists eh, ruining for good honest inclusive types like you.

I never claimed to be inclusive? But there's nothing racist about not wanting the country to be negatively affected by immigration from backward cultures. Whereas some alt-right types are actually racist.


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