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the_chosen_one 09-06-2007 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by InTheHood
I'm kinda bored of my white friends asking me what I think of BB race rows

All BB does is make my time whilst it's on TV, a permanent race discussion.
We can't all wrap ourselves in cotton wool and just hope problems will go away on their own, but I respect your point of view.

PleasurePrinciple 10-06-2007 12:40 AM

Admin. Edit: No personal insults.

easypeasy 10-06-2007 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by Jodie6
we've lost our freedom of speech end of story
yep, white British people cant say **** all about anybody else now without it being racist.

Turrican 10-06-2007 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by easypeasy
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Originally posted by Jodie6
we've lost our freedom of speech end of story
yep, white British people cant say **** all about anybody else now without it being racist.
I'd rather live in a world without nasty, racist brats like Emily than live in a world of "free speech".

Certain things need rules and regulations and racism is one of those things.

It must be stamped out!

the_chosen_one 10-06-2007 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by Turrican
I'd rather live in a world without nasty, racist brats like Emily than live in a world of "free speech".

Certain things need rules and regulations and racism is one of those things.

It must be stamped out!
The sort of facist absolution Adolf Hitler would be proud to hear. His spirit lives on.

Shaun 10-06-2007 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by PleasurePrinciple
Admin. Edit: No personal insults.
RACIST :shocked:

Edit - by bugsy2301 - haha, oops, it's been edited. Never mind! :tongue:

InTheFade 10-06-2007 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by the_chosen_one
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Originally posted by Turrican
I'd rather live in a world without nasty, racist brats like Emily than live in a world of "free speech".

Certain things need rules and regulations and racism is one of those things.

It must be stamped out!
The sort of facist absolution Adolf Hitler would be proud to hear. His spirit lives on.
LOL that really is hilarious, who'd have thought there'd be a neo-Nazi on this forum? How dare anyone speak out against racism! Honestly, by saying that racism must be stamped out, this guy could actually be the very tyrant responsible for the deaths of thousands of Jewish men, women and children... No, really it is no laughing matter when people go out of their way to defend some stupid little madam like Emily Parr by comparing someone to Hitler merely because their opinion is different... It's actually disgraceful...

the_chosen_one 10-06-2007 03:00 PM

There's no disgrace in my post whatsoever Jaz0.

Adolf Hitler was a facist aswell as a racist. Facism is a very similar thing, which you'd know if you actually knew what you were talking about, and Turrican's post reeks of disgraceful facist sentiment.

e.g. Would prefer a world without free speech and has the audacity to reserve the right to choose who lives in it.

InTheFade 10-06-2007 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by the_chosen_one
There's no disgrace in my post whatsoever Jaz0.

Adolf Hitler was a facist aswell as a racist. Facism is a very similar thing, which you'd know if you actually knew what you were talking about, and Turrican's post reeks of disgraceful facist sentiment.
Yeah that makes sense, anyone whose opinion isn't exactly the same as yours doesn't know what they're talking about... I know what fascism means (I even know how to spell it, look at that!) and I know that hating racism doesn't make someone a fascist and that it is far crueller and more unjustified to compare someone to Adolf Hitler than it is to kick Emily out of Big Brother because she's a silly hypocrite (you will never have caught me calling her a racist, incidentally...).

the_chosen_one 10-06-2007 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by Jaz0
I know that hating racism doesn't make someone a fascist
That's true, but no-one said it did.

It's the sentiment behind certain posts which reveal a sinister motive.

InTheFade 10-06-2007 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by the_chosen_one
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Originally posted by Jaz0
I know that hating racism doesn't make someone a fascist
That's true, but no-one said it did.

It's the sentiment behind certain posts which reveal a sinister motive.
Okay but let's face it, you'll defend Emily until you're blue in the face and if she were to reveal that she wants to rid the world of anyone who doesn't have white skin, blonde hair and blue eyes, you'd probably still find a reason to defend her...

the_chosen_one 10-06-2007 03:20 PM

No, I'd say it was inappropriate.

That's the problem here. Some people have convinced themselves that Emily is indefensible, which is their own mistake. Their own hypocrisy.

InTheFade 10-06-2007 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by the_chosen_one
No, I'd say it was inappropriate.

That's the problem here. Some people have convinced themselves that Emily is indefensible, which is their own mistake. Their own hypocrisy.
I can defend Emily by saying that I don't believe that any offence was intended when she said 'the word'. However, I can't defend her if someone calls her stupid/ignorant/an idiot/hypocritical because as far as I'm concerned, she is all of those things...

the_chosen_one 10-06-2007 03:41 PM

I really have no issue with the things you're saying Jaz0. If you arn't one of the people trying to brand Emily Parr a 'racist' then you and I have no disagreement.

Turrican 10-06-2007 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by the_chosen_one
I really have no issue with the things you're saying Jaz0. If you arn't one of the people trying to brand Emily Parr a 'racist' then you and I have no disagreement.
That's one of the stupidest thing's i've heard all this week. "Emily parr is not a racist" LOL that's like saying the sun is not hot.

Emily called a black person a NI**ER to her FACE. How much more racist do you want? and it was not in the context of "hey my ni**a how you doing?" or any other "street slang" context. It was at the end of a sentence which was designed to insult.

If you defend her, you are as bad as her. Simply a racist who has yet to come out of the closet.

:sad:

the_chosen_one 10-06-2007 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by Turrican

If you defend her, you are as bad as her. Simply a racist who has yet to come out of the closet.
For you to assume Emily's comment is racist Turrican, requires YOU to be of the opinion that Emily and Charley ARE NOT EQUALS.

If anyone is a closet racist trying to make a cover up, it is you Sir, and that is becoming more and more obvious about all these people attempting to brand others 'racists'. Hypocrisy in it's most conniving, sinister form.

If you require further proof, to compare, here's your reaction to Jonathan Ross' racial slur on Spanish men...

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Originally posted by Turrican
Ah I dont think this really compares. Ross is always making risque comments

easypeasy 10-06-2007 04:44 PM

saying that any race apart from caucasians are allowed to be racist is fascist.

InTheFade 10-06-2007 05:03 PM

This is getting ridiculous, I'm not gonna go to great lengths to try and convince anyone that I'm not a racist, I know I'm not and I know that half the people on here who have been accused of being racist are not and that's all that matters to me.

easypeasy 10-06-2007 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by Jaz0
This is getting ridiculous, I'm not going to go to great lengths to try and convince anyone that I'm not a racist, I know I'm not and I know that half the people on here who have been accused of being racist are not and that's all that matters to me.
now you know how emily feels.......hehe

the_chosen_one 10-06-2007 05:24 PM

+1 karma for easypeasy.

Turrican 10-06-2007 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by the_chosen_one
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Originally posted by Turrican

If you defend her, you are as bad as her. Simply a racist who has yet to come out of the closet.
For you to assume Emily's comment is racist Turrican, requires YOU to be of the opinion that Emily and Charley ARE NOT EQUALS.

If anyone is a closet racist trying to make a cover up, it is you Sir, and that is becoming more and more obvious about all these people attempting to brand others 'racists'. Hypocrisy in it's most conniving, sinister form.

If you require further proof, to compare, here's your reaction to Jonathan Ross' racial slur on Spanish men...

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Originally posted by Turrican
Ah I dont think this really compares. Ross is always making risque comments

I do NOT assume Emily is a racist. I KNOW she is a racist, along with the rest of the country, (catch up, dear) Which is the reason why she was thrown out of BB, and also the reason her family have disowned her.

I don't see how your inept logic has come to the conclusion that I am the racist here instead; simply for pointing out that those defending a racist are most likely racist themselves.

Again, I will repeat what I said about Jonathan Ross's so-called "racial slur" on spanish men: His show is all about tongue-in-cheek nonsense, it's not to be taken seriously, the audience know it and so do the viewers at home (all expect you it seems)
Comparing Jonathan Ross's COMEDY show to Emily on a REALITY TV show is laughable (as I said before). Ross did not insult anyone personally, he made an off-the-cuff remark as he always does in a very generalised and comic way and most likely does not reflect his PERSONAL views in real life at home etc.

Emily slipped up.. she showed the nation what she was on reality TV - someone who uses the N word in normal conversation to INSULT someone (as she most likely does alot with her friends/family in private)

Glad we cleared that up :)

the_chosen_one 10-06-2007 05:51 PM

OK, I've heard your point of view Turrican (one that you have decided represents the rest of the country's point of view, too).

I have no more to say to you on this matter.

nodisharmony 10-06-2007 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by Turrican


I do NOT assume Emily is a racist. I KNOW she is a racist, along with the rest of the country, (catch up, dear)
Unless you know Emily personally, you can't actually state that fact. The whole country doesn't think that Emily is a racist. Once again, How do you know that the whole country believes that? the_chosen_one probably will ignore that (catch up, dear) comment...

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Which is the reason why she was thrown out of BB, and also the reason her family have disowned her.
Emily was thrown out of the BB house, because she said the (N) word. It is against the rules and Endemol were not given any choice. The comment regarding her family disowning Emily, well that is incorrect....

Emily is loved by her family before she went in, during she was in & even after she came out & shall continue to do so. Facts are out there..


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I don't see how your inept logic has come to the conclusion that I am the racist here instead; simply for pointing out that those defending a racist are most likely racist themselves.
I cannot comment on what, the_chosen_one's views are, in regards to yourself personally. However, anyone trying to clear Emily's name, doesn't mean that they are racist themselves. Also, the other-way-round too. Everyone has their views & all should respect them too

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Again, I will repeat what I said about Jonathan Ross's so-called "racial slur" on spanish men: His show is all about tongue-in-cheek nonsense, it's not to be taken seriously, the audience know it and so do the viewers at home (all expect you it seems)
Comparing Jonathan Ross's COMEDY show to Emily on a REALITY TV show is laughable (as I said before). Ross did not insult anyone personally, he made an off-the-cuff remark as he always does in a very generalised and comic way and most likely does not reflect his PERSONAL views in real life at home etc.
I have to say that Jonathon Ross does say some crazy stuff & if he has made a mistake, he will always apologise for it, if it has offended anyone. Some people don't think before they talk & can accidentally say something that they shouldn't

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Emily slipped up.. she showed the nation what she was on reality TV - someone who uses the N word in normal conversation to INSULT someone (as she most likely does alot with her friends/family in private)

Glad we cleared that up :)
Once again, we don't have facts, in regards Emily being a racist person. All she said is the (N) word & she explained why & how she meant it & we can only make judgements from that at this stage.

If however, we find out some more concrete evidence later on, then we can look at that & make further & more educational judgements, as & when the evidence arrives.







nodisharmony :angel:

matt_spenc 10-06-2007 09:47 PM

It wasnt rasicst end off! omg i said niger who gives a ****
so its ok for a black person to say it but when a white person says it it all kicks off!

Turrican 11-06-2007 07:37 AM

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Originally posted by matt_spenc
It wasnt rasicst end off! omg i said niger who gives a ****
so its ok for a black person to say it but when a white person says it it all kicks off!
If you say the word to yourself then fine (if that get's you off).. say it to a black persons FACE whom you hardly know as part of an INSULTING sentence then you ARE a racist. Wake up. Get a clue and stop trying to refute things that are already hard FACT.

And learn to spell for Christ's sake. Why can nobody spell "racist" even when the word is repeated about 100x on this page alone?

Who give's a "****"? Well I do for ONE. I don't see why another race of human being should be victimised just for having darker skin, you facist.

I'll repeat my arguement once more for the slow people here: Emily called a black person a ni**er to her face as part of an insulting sentence. This IS RACISM. Don't try and defend it - you just look as bad as her: stupid, ignorant and arrogant.


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