I'd be interested to look at this, do you have a link?

They have. Although there was a survey lately showing acceptance towards lgbt actually going down. Worth watching

Not allowing gay ex concentration camps prisoners to parade with others was a low and mean blow

Yes, that was a low blow, but attitudes have changes since the 80s.

My Dad was a soldier back in the 80s. There was a lad in his battalion who was gay. Everyone knew, not many cared, but it was a deathly secret because if it had got out, he would have been thrown out.

I wish Turing could have somehow known how future generations would see him.

Ive tried looking...I believe the gay part...but ex POWs? ..I can't find anything about it.

This is as late as 1997 when they were still not allowed to parade with others.
When I have more time I'll find the link I saw last year

http://outrage.org.uk/1997/11/queer-remembrance-day/

As nice as it is who even uses 50 notes?

Got anything on ex POWs not being allowed to take part in these memorial parades?

https://lgbthistorymonth.org.uk/shar...ean-1923-2013/

if you want more, do you own research, I have no time to post more links for you

Turing was a tragic figure. Persecuted for homosexuality after the war, chemically castrated and refused security clearance and dropped by the government.
Eventually committed suicide.

Arguably his work might have saved the most lives ever saved by an individual.

use logic, if gay veteran soldiers were banned from marching how POWs would be allowed since they were veteran soldiers that got captured?

I'm confused!!

You said ex POWs were not allowed to March or attend these ceremonies prior to sometime in the 80s....I don't believe that at all...I've looked for news on it but like it said I can't see anything so I'm asking for clarification now as to who or what you meant!

No gays were allowed in official parades commemorating the wars
What's not to understand?
I dont believe you're confused

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/...ahartleybrewer

Gays plan 'queer' Cenotaph tribute
Julia Hartley-Brewer

Sat 13 Nov 1999 02.17 GMT

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Gay campaigners protesting on behalf of the "forgotten" homosexual war dead will join former servicemen and women at the Cenotaph for the Remembrance Day service tomorrow.
Homosexual veterans and activists for gay and lesbian rights yesterday condemned the Royal British Legion as "homophobic", claiming the veterans' organisation has refused to acknowledge the sacrifices made by gay people during the second world war.

They plan to follow the main ceremony and two minutes' silence with a special "queer remembrance day" service, with gay campaigners marching directly behind war veterans laying wreaths of poppies at the Cenotaph, but instead holding pink flags and laying pink triangle wreaths before observing another minute's silence.

Peter Tatchell, the Outrage campaigner, who will join the ceremony, accused the British Legion of excluding the partners of gay war veterans from the official Remembrance Sunday parade, while welcoming the widows and widowers of heterosexuals in military service.

He said: "The Royal British Legion refuses to acknowledge that an estimated 500,000 lesbian, gay and bisexual people served in the armed forces during the second world war. Accounting for about 10% of enlisted strength, queer military personnel made a significant but still unrecognised contribution to the defeat of Hitlerism."

During the gay service, a short oration will be delivered by Ray Harvey-Amer, 64, a homosexual veteran who served as a nurse in the Royal Navy from 1957. He said: "There were a lot of gay men and lesbians who did a very good job of fighting the Nazis but were terrified to be out and proud about their sexuality."

The service was arranged after an approach to Outrage by the partner of a gay serviceman who had recently died, who claimed the British Legion told him he could not join the widows and widowers on the parade past the Cenotaph because same-sex partners were not recognised.

The legion denied homophobia. Retired Lieutenant Colonel Bobby Hanscomb, assistant secretary, said: "There isn't a policy. We have never excluded anybody from the service as it is a national event representing everybody."

He added: "I don't think it is right to make a political point at a ceremony to mark the deaths of 1.7m people. We are just anxious the dignity and solemnity of the occasion will be given proper regard."

https://uk.lush.com/article/qa-peter-tatchell

During the 1980s you battled to allow pink triangle wreaths to be placed outside The Cenotaph War Memorial at Whitehall, can you tell us a little bit about the history of the pink triangle and what it represents?


Until the mid-1980s there was an unofficial ban on the laying of pink triangle wreaths at Britain’s main war memorial The Cenotaph. For many years, we had laid wreaths but they had always been removed within a few hours. The Royal British Legion denounced pink triangle wreaths as an insult to the war dead. It refused to allow a gay veterans contingent to march in Remembrance Day parades. It was only in 1985, on the 40th anniversary of VE day, that the government finally relented and allowed us to lay pink triangle wreaths

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...hatsubject.jpg


[The design of the Bank of England's new £50 note,
featuring the computer pioneer and
codebreaker Alan Turing, has been revealed.
The banknote will enter circulation on 23 June,
which would have been the mathematician's birthday.
It will be the last of the Bank's collection to switch
from paper to polymer. In keeping with
Alan Turing's work, the set is its most secure yet.

Old paper £50 notes will still be accepted in shops for some time.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56503741

I do on Big Contracts

Not seen one for a while, send me one Arista

Know what's going to be really weird? Charles' big ol' mug on banknotes. We're all likely to live to see King William banknotes too - although maybe banknotes won't exist at all in 20 years? :think:

Bookies and mid-range (£300 - £1000 per bet) gamblers. I had a Chinese customer who would ONLY bet with £50 notes, because "red is lucky".

Never even thought of that :worry:

Yeah The Queen has been around so long that not many people now will remember any note that didn't have Queen Liz 2 on it, so I think we all just... think of that as being "what money looks like" and forget that it'll change :omgno:.

Lucky Red.

Wonder how long it'd actually take for Charles to start appearing on notes and coins after becoming king, I guess the Queens currency would still be dominant for a long time. Something like the £50 note and 1p/2p coins I doubt they'd bother redesigning at all as both would be the first currency to be phased out if we were moving cashless

Probably longer than his potential reign.

Do you think Charles will get a go? I could almost see the Queen out living him :laugh:

Great news for Alan Turing just a shame he was treated so horribly while he was alive though

You may be.


Millions will Not.