isn't the problem with public toilets more to do with the need for them to be supervised constantly to stop them being used by junkies/prostitutes and the like. It's not just about having an open, clean toilet

Apparently its places where food is sold who also seat over 40 people (or 50..cant remember which) according to our local cafe, who seat 70 people but still do not offer loos because 'they were open before that rule came in so its fine' :suspect: Never looked into it but will always remember that really bad proper blazing row between the staff and some old woman who was dying for the loo, who did subsequently wet herself during the argument. They told her there was no loo on the premises at all. Which always sounded dodgy as staff work there so there must be. But people took that as truth until one day James was desperate and was about to take him outside to go round the back (so easy with boys..) and one of the staff said he could use their loo and everyone seemed gobsmacked!

Theres like one loo now, in a bar, on chester front street. Right down the bottom theres Morrisons and Tesco who let people in obviously. The other few down there are bars who can be dodgy (personally, If I use the loo in a bar, I buy a drink, everytime, maybe just a half of coke, but still..a drink) but for a long long way, theres just this one bar which is quite dodgy about people coming in just for the loo obviously given, there were 6 public loos down that stretch until the council ripped them out for no reason and expected the bar to basically..be loo for thousands of people per day instead :rolleyes: Meanwhile, they spent a MILLION on some stupid statue type thing at the bottom of the street, that was ugly and hated, and is now (2 yars later) being ripped down to be replaced..so not sure its budgeting problems as much as them just being uncaring twats.

Places tend to be fine with it if you have young kids. But many many places have been dodgy as **** with me if I ask to use the loo when theres just me, even when obviously pregnant. Mention health issues and they roll eyes (as probably, everyone says that to try and get to go) which is basically why I adopted, buy a half of coke. They cannot refuse you then and its only 2 quid, which I am more thanm happy to pay to make sure I dont piss myself tbh.

That's happening across the country they did the same in my town. To keep them serviceable someone would have to be employed to maintain them, a luxury not all towns can afford now. In larger cities you'll have the attended 20p a go loos but if there's not the footfall to make it profitable then there's nothing.
If I need to go while I'm out I sneak in wetherspoons and pretend I'm looking for someone :hehe:

Loads of people do that. In rare times when we go, we play guess the person pretending to be looking about for friends then shooting to the loo and walking/running out with a red face.:D

Yep thats me lol... unlike you Vicky im too tight to even buy a drink :) and if i did i'd need the loo 10 mins later so no point :laugh: guess it's a sign of the times, if toilets were more of a risk to the public than a service then it kind of makes sense to get rid of them.I can see the logic behind it to be fair.

From what I have seen many councils waste money that they could be using on housing and other maintainance , its not always the governments fault.

Yeh people shop online now cos brexit x

Such as, which council has wasted money kaz, seeing as many have had cuts to central govt funding that restricts even basic services I'd like to know where it's being wasted?

Ous wasted vast amounts on the stupid statue thing, was a mini bridge..seemed for no reason whatsoever. I have yet to meet a person who thinks it was even half decent, let alone good or money well spent! Being pulled down 2 years later as they are trying to open the market place up a bit more :rolleyes: Meanwhile, they claim to not have money for maintaining properties right, or doing roadworks or anything. But can pay out a million quid on some stupid fake bridge thats ugly as hell :laugh:

Yeah most councils have been cut to the bone. Unfortunately, some still do waste money on endless crap, rather than trying to focus it on things that are needed.

the public toilets are a strange one, generally I don't know anyone who liked to use them as there were some morons who abused the facilities and after dark they became no go areas

Our local council invested in a new fleet of buses, all pretty basic apart from the one that ferries the councillers around, which is a top of the range model :skull:

That couldve been a grant? Councils get those for culture and arts and such it may have been from the EU... What's it called I'll try find out :)

Well ours have just had their block of offices refurbished , their fleet of vans painted with Wallace and Gromit images , they also send out thousands and thousands of glossy calendars every year most are never opened and put in the recycling, all these cost a lot of money and they are not necessary imo.

You should be grateful they've invested in your work space :smug:

in grand Cal style

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