Looking into the point ts made, the effectiveness of carbon capture would be compromised as far as I see it by fire as trees store their carbon above ground and grass below. However...conversely there will be areas as likely now to be affected by flooding including coastal regions, also specifically related to climate change, in which case grassland loses its captured carbon?

There is also technology that can be used to sort out the environment but it is very, very expensive. As far as I'm concerned, it's now payback time, and the west should be compelled to fund it. They know how to fix the issue, they just wont do it

It's not dubious, like I said there are OTHER environmental considerations (huge ones) with grass vs. trees but the one that is thrown around all the time in the press / social media etc. is oxygen production... that we would lose 20% of the world's oxygen generation if the Amazon was completely replaced by farming / grazing... and it's just flat out false.

On the other hand, the ocean creates 50% of the planet's oxygen supply and we're slowly killing that, too... and that's not being replaced by anything at all. If the oceans die, we drop 50%, which is sort of terrifying really.

And I think grass removes less CO2 than an equivalent patch of rainforest... and CO2 in the atmosphere is raising the ocean's acidity levels... so I guess the numbers get even more complicated there, with the destruction also having other indirect effects. :think:

Theoretical technology - essentially terraforming, which was theorised to be used to colonise other planets etc. but now they're thinking we'll end up having to use it to keep our own habitable :facepalm:.

But yes, it's technology that is known to be possible but is still in early developmental stages. The actual physical technology does not exist. It's a bit of a race against time, I guess... will we manage to create WORKING tech before we're too far gone to use it?

'Development projects must be implemented on the Amazon basin to integrate it into the rest of the national territory in order to fight off international pressure for the implementation of the so-called ‘Triple A’ [conservation] project,”*one slide reads.'

Look at the use of language here....I hate to say it but it looks very familiar.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9075681.html

How is it flat out false?.. as said the only argument I've seen for grass over trees is the risk fire poses to trees releasing their carbon back into the atmosphere..it was nothing to do with oxygen production. Where's the evidence?

https://sciencing.com/how-much-oxyge...-12222682.html

here's the evidence, how grass produces oxygen

I just read it... it clearly states grass is a poor producer of oxygen. To be fair it reads like BBC bitesize for key stage 2 too, I wouldn't go relying on that too heavily.

True but now we know better.
Brazil should receive help to reorient its economy away from logging and cattle. The whole help thing should be monitored to avoid waste and theft. They need viable alternatives and incentives to keep amazon intact and healthy. Same goes for other things in other countries. But amazon must be a top priority
There should be a global fund for these things

Trees are important, and we need to preserve green areas in the UK as well. While our greenery might not contribute to the worldwide oxygen content, we still need to stop ruining the green areas we have with housing developments, shopping areas, etc.

Not just that, we need to plant trees.
Ireland is doing that. From 5% of tree covered area they are up to 11% and carrying on until they have 18% coverage

He's saying environmentalists started the fires.

The loggers are armed
that tells you he is taking over
and destroying the Amazon Rain Forrest

I agree with that, good for Ireland!

The theory is that they did that to show how feeble the response would be.

NASA says that this year's fire activity in the Amazon is close to the average for the past 15 years.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/im...ires-in-brazil

what's been destroyed, you can add new plants to rebuild those sections of the amazon forest

what you can still save, you must save, this needs to be in the attention every single day

having been to the amazon in 2016 living in the jungle with a local tribe for 3 nights, I must say it is a wonder of the world.

Here's more info. Brazil has more intense fires this year, since 2010, but less than the mid-2000s.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-49433767

they want to stop descrating the peat bogs though.

Exactly its a non new story to entertain the greta fan club

At the end of the day as long as our amazon packages keep getting delivered I really dont see the problem.

:umm2:

i see many solutions to this problem

security system, create a sort territory fence for protected eco systems, with security camera's on that fence, so if these farmers, ranchers then try something again you got that on camera and security/police can intervene immediately


amazon rainforest should rightfully be a protected eco system, everything what is damaged now, you can make green again, ''making the world green, cooling down the planet'' is a advertisement here in my country btw, which is for africa but it should count for this rainforest too

Leave the poor girl alone

:laugh: sure Jan