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arista 04-10-2019 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10689209)
How is slapping the child's legs gonna teach it anything? :laugh:



The Toddler then knows
never to run across a main road.


Its all about saving lives

Cherie 04-10-2019 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10689211)
The Toddler then knows
never to run across a main road.


Its all about saving lives

or the parent could hold the toddler and get down to their level and point out the dangers

we need more parents like this around the school a few minutes from me, parents wandering across the road because the new gate that opened is 2 minutes walk from the crossing, so they wont walk to it to cross as the poor dears would then have to walk another 2 minutes back, then they start shouting at you if you dare not to stop to let them cross when they are perched in the middle of the street

bots 04-10-2019 08:05 AM

i think it was already banned in schools which is where the confusion comes in.

I knew a kid when i was growing up that got smacked by his parents almost constantly for the most tenuous of reasons. He didn't change his behaviour at all, he just got slapped more :shrug:

I always found that my kids know exactly when to behave purely by the tone of my voice, i don't even need to raise my voice. The point being they already know that they are doing something they shouldn't, its called knowing right from wrong and that is the important lesson that a parent teaches. After that, nothing else is needed.

Niamh. 04-10-2019 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10689206)
BREAKING NEWS

Child learns to cross road without being slapped

'tis a miracle in October!

:laugh2:

But yeah bloody hell, they don't recommend slapping dogs to "train" them, why is it a good way to train a child ffs

Niamh. 04-10-2019 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10689209)
How is slapping the child's legs gonna teach it anything? :laugh:

Their legs will be too sore to run?

Niamh. 04-10-2019 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10689226)
i think it was already banned in schools which is where the confusion comes in.

I knew a kid when i was growing up that got smacked by his parents almost constantly for the most tenuous of reasons. He didn't change his behaviour at all, he just got slapped more :shrug:

I always found that my kids know exactly when to behave purely by the tone of my voice, i don't even need to raise my voice. The point being they already know that they are doing something they shouldn't, its called knowing right from wrong and that is the important lesson that a parent teaches. After that, nothing else is needed.

Exactly, I don't know how this is an "out there" concept, people seem to think that not smacking equals no discipline or bad kids, it really doesn't. Never smacked mine and they've always been really good kids (teens now)

user104658 04-10-2019 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10689211)
The Toddler then knows

never to run across a main road.





Its all about saving lives

The toddler knows never to run into the road because they'll get a smack from a parent. So as soon as a parent isn't around to see them, they think it's "safe" because they won't get smacked.

Here's what saves lives; don't have small children unsupervised next to roads until they're old enough to understand the actual danger.

Niamh. 04-10-2019 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10689251)
The toddler knows never to run into the road because they'll get a smack from a parent. So as soon as a parent isn't around to see them, they think it's "safe" because they won't get smacked.

Here's what saves lives; don't have small children unsupervised next to roads until they're old enough to understand the actual danger.

Or the toddler learns to run out on the road faster to avoid the smack............

AnnieK 04-10-2019 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10689251)
The toddler knows never to run into the road because they'll get a smack from a parent. So as soon as a parent isn't around to see them, they think it's "safe" because they won't get smacked.

Here's what saves lives; don't have small children unsupervised next to roads until they're old enough to understand the actual danger.

Don't let logic get in the way of smacking kids :laugh:

arista 04-10-2019 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10689251)
The toddler knows never to run into the road because they'll get a smack from a parent. So as soon as a parent isn't around to see them, they think it's "safe" because they won't get smacked.

Here's what saves lives; don't have small children unsupervised next to roads until they're old enough to understand the actual danger.



No TS
we are talking about Toddlers

arista 04-10-2019 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10689254)
Or the toddler learns to run out on the road faster to avoid the smack............


No
a Hard Smack
is Education.


That saves the Toddlers Life.


Feel The Force

Niamh. 04-10-2019 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10689269)
No
a Hard Smack
is Education.


That saves the Toddlers Life.


Feel The Force

Oh a hard smack, so the aim is to hurt a small child?

arista 04-10-2019 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10689271)
Oh a hard smack, so the aim is to hurt a small child?



No
its to teach a Toddler to never run in a Main Road

Niamh. 04-10-2019 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10689274)
No
its to teach a Toddler to never run in a Main Road

By physically hurting them....

Alf 04-10-2019 10:35 AM

Not only should parents be allowed to smack their child, but so should teachers.

We're animals, we need to be taught wrong from right from a young age.

Anybody who doesn't give their disobedient child a slap is failing their child in the game of life. And for what? So they can think themselves virtuous.

arista 04-10-2019 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10689275)
By physically hurting them....


Only Once


Saving the Toddlers Life

Niamh. 04-10-2019 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10689276)
Not only should parents be allowed to smack their child, but so should teachers.

We're animals, we need to be taught wrong from right from a young age.

Anybody who doesn't give their disobedient child a slap is failing their child in the game of life. And for what? So they can think themselves virtuous.

Again this logic that not smacking = no discipline/bad children. Lazy parenting

Niamh. 04-10-2019 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10689277)
Only Once


Saving the Toddlers Life

What if they do it again?

arista 04-10-2019 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10689281)
What if they do it again?


But the Toddler never does



They have a Memory



Saving Lives

Niamh. 04-10-2019 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10689282)
But the Toddler never does



They have a Memory



Saving Lives

That is absolutely not true :laugh: I've often seen the exact same people smacking the exact same kids everyday, maybe they're not hitting them hard enough, huh?

AnnieK 04-10-2019 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10689276)
Not only should parents be allowed to smack their child, but so should teachers.

We're animals, we need to be taught wrong from right from a young age.

Anybody who doesn't give their disobedient child a slap is failing their child in the game of life. And for what? So they can think themselves virtuous.

If you have to resort to hitting a disobedient child, that's when your failing your child.

Niamh. 04-10-2019 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10689290)
If you have to resort to hitting a disobedient child, that's when your failing your child.

Exactly, it's like there is no other way to discipline or teach your kids, maybe some parenting classes or something might help if people really can't think of any other possible way to teach their child other than violence

Alf 04-10-2019 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10689290)
If you have to resort to hitting a disobedient child, that's when your failing your child.

Your parents would have had corporal punishment as a deterrent growing up, did they turn out failures?

Alf 04-10-2019 10:57 AM

Your problem is that you can't see the difference between an educational slap and beating a child. There is a difference.

AnnieK 04-10-2019 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10689293)
Your parents would have had corporal punishment as a deterrent growing up, did they turn out failures?

Lol, what does that prove? Lots of high profile murderers were probably smacked as children and went on to be abusers.....corporal punishment did them the world of good. :shrug:

I am older than you Alf I think, my school had corporal punishment, my dad never hit me but my mum did on occasion, didn't stop me doing what I was doing though. I choose not to smack my child as violence never solves anything. He is a good kid and knows when I raise my voice or change my tone that he is doing something wrong. At the age he is now (nearly 9), the threat of losing football privileges etc would hurt him far more than a slap and teach him far better.


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