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Mystic Mock 12-12-2019 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10732269)
If you want the NHS to continue being a thing, vote Labour.

If you like crippling debt any time you need to visit a hospital, vote Tory. Voting Tory is essentially voting for the deaths of people who won't be able to afford healthcare without the NHS.

I agree with what you're saying to some extent Dezzy.

This Election is basically vote on what bothers you more out of mass Immigration or the mismanagement of the NHS. Sadly I think that people will vote more based on the former than the latter.

Withano 12-12-2019 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10732298)
Rubbish...labour scare tactics. ."save our nhs"


Pfft...I first saw those signs in the 70s and it's still going strong.

...no it isn’t. It gets weaker each year the tories are in power.

GoldHeart 12-12-2019 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10732261)
It would be funny if it wasn't the truth...
I'm amazed this is being held up as an example of dishonesty, like the conservatives can be as bogus, untrustworthy and corrupt as they like but if labour aren't perfect... not that they've ever claimed to be they're the worst :/

Exactly it's ridiculous how badly Labour gets treated

Zizu 12-12-2019 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10732269)
If you want the NHS to continue being a thing, vote Labour.

If you like crippling debt any time you need to visit a hospital, vote Tory. Voting Tory is essentially voting for the deaths of people who won't be able to afford healthcare without the NHS.



That said , crippling debt equates to Labour ... fact


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Zizu 12-12-2019 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10732261)
It would be funny if it wasn't the truth...

I'm amazed this is being held up as an example of dishonesty, like the conservatives can be as bogus, untrustworthy and corrupt as they like but if labour aren't perfect... not that they've ever claimed to be they're the worst :/



Why didn’t they simply use an actual flamin’ nurse in the first place ?

It can’t be that difficult to find a disgruntled one ...


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Kizzy 12-12-2019 11:33 AM

Why not get one of the troll nurses from Facebook used to discredit the story of the little boy on the floor of Leeds general infirmary ? ?

Oliver_W 12-12-2019 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10732508)
That said , crippling debt equates to Labour ... fact


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So shall we have everyone in crippling debt, or just the NHS?

Zizu 12-12-2019 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10732298)
Rubbish...labour scare tactics. ."save our nhs"





Pfft...I first saw those signs in the 70s and it's still going strong.



Basically nothing has changed since the 60’s ... they all promise the earth and more , one of them gets into power ... fails to deliver on all those empty promises

Just repeat when and where required.


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Zizu 12-12-2019 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 10732494)
...no it isn’t. It gets weaker each year the tories are in power.



The number of A&E cases seen has TRIPLED in the last few years ... how is that the fault of the tories ( or labour for that matter ) ?


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Oliver_W 12-12-2019 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10732515)
The number of A&E cases seen has TRIPLED in the last few years ... how is that the fault of the tories ( or labour for that matter ) ?


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Well it's both of their faults for not limiting population growth tbh.

Kizzy 12-12-2019 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10732515)
The number of A&E cases seen has TRIPLED in the last few years ... how is that the fault of the tories ( or labour for that matter ) ?


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It's harder to get a doctors appointments, people are waiting till their condition is acute before seeking help?
People with recognised contitions are being found 'fit for work'.
Poverty is causing 'heat or eat' issues like malnutriton and hypothermia.
The homeless brought to A&E for various issues including mental health problems.
Addiction issues arising from poverty.
Stress, depression and suicide attempts.

There are many reasons, those are just a few I can think of off the top of my head.

Zizu 12-12-2019 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10732520)
It's harder to get a doctors appointments, people are waiting till their condition is acute before seeking help?
People with recognised contitions are being found 'fit for work'.
Poverty is causing 'heat or eat' issues like malnutriton and hypothermia.



Yes but there’s no way any party can cope when the hospital cases are tripling in as many years ..

Not 10% or 30% but 300% increase in demand ..


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Kizzy 12-12-2019 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10732525)
Yes but there’s no way any party can cope when the hospital cases are tripling in as many years ..

Not 10% or 30% but 300% increase in demand ..


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They could if other services that took the strain weren't removed or cut to the bone.

Oliver_W 12-12-2019 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10732528)
They could if other services that took the strain weren't removed or cut to the bone.

Yeah I always go to the post office for broken bones and heart attacks.

Withano 12-12-2019 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10732515)
The number of A&E cases seen has TRIPLED in the last few years ... how is that the fault of the tories ( or labour for that matter ) ?


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Why you pretending this is the only problem

Crimson Dynamo 12-12-2019 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10732525)
Yes but there’s no way any party can cope when the hospital cases are tripling in as many years ..

Not 10% or 30% but 300% increase in demand ..


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One of the main problems is the increasing number of geriatric patients who clog up beds as they dont have anywhere to go - cant go home and there are no places at care homes so they stay in hospitals and the number is growing

Kizzy 12-12-2019 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10732536)
One of the main problems is the increasing number of geriatric patients who clog up beds as they dont have anywhere to go - cant go home and there are no places at care homes so they stay in hospitals and the number is growing

Ah yes bed blocking how could I forget? Social care is in crisis as these lovely privatley run nursing homes go bust.

Crimson Dynamo 12-12-2019 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10732562)
Ah yes bed blocking how could I forget? Social care is in crisis as these lovely privatley run nursing homes go bust.

Everything is in crisis it seems and yet on we go

Kizzy 12-12-2019 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10732565)
Everything is in crisis it seems and yet on we go

Yes turkeys voting for christmas...at Christmas. That's what a boris vote means essentially.

Tom4784 12-12-2019 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10732298)
Rubbish...labour scare tactics. ."save our nhs"


Pfft...I first saw those signs in the 70s and it's still going strong.

Be careful you don't get sand in your ears.

Elliot 12-12-2019 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 10732094)

Skjskjs

Crimson Dynamo 12-12-2019 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10732567)
Yes turkeys voting for christmas...at Christmas. That's what a boris vote means essentially.

no it does not and insulting people to make yourself feel better is not nice, have some respect for other people

Tom4784 12-12-2019 02:10 PM

I have no respect for people who do themselves, and by extension, people around them, harm through ignorance.

Clutching your pearls in faux outrage is not an argument against what Kizzy is saying.

Nicky91 12-12-2019 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10732596)
no it does not and insulting people to make yourself feel better is not nice, have some respect for other people

nothing's personal in politics though :shrug:

Zizu 12-12-2019 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10732532)
Yeah I always go to the post office for broken bones and heart attacks.



Well they do offer a first class service

:)


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