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Scarlett. 16-12-2019 08:49 PM

Remainers are not going anywhere, even when Brexit happens we wont be quiet. :)

Kizzy 16-12-2019 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 10736061)
They should have backed a compromise leave position from the start (after the referendum) instead of messing around with the People's Vote stuff - which helped get the election result we got.

Corbyn never wanted to iirc he was against backing remain and only put the 2nd vote option on the ballot they'd have under duress.
He wanted to leave, it was no secret. He was pilloried for not coming out vocally for remain and also for advocating leave he couldn't win.

Crimson Dynamo 16-12-2019 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10736085)
I think most people accept it, the problem is Brexiteers believing that "accepting that it's happening" has to involve pretending that it won't be an absolute disaster :joker:.

But that is also jargon. It's not happened no one knows

Withano 16-12-2019 08:53 PM

Stupid idea made true by media and gulllible members of the public

Crimson Dynamo 16-12-2019 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 10736094)
Stupid idea made true by media and gulllible members of the public

Oh stop insulting people to to pretend you are somehow better

Ffs it's so old now

James 16-12-2019 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10736091)
Corbyn never wanted to iirc he was against backing remain and only put the 2nd vote option on the ballot they'd have under duress.
He wanted to leave, it was no secret. He was pilloried for not coming out vocally for remain and also for advocating leave he couldn't win.

Yeah, it is obvious from his record in politics that he is a Eurosceptic in the style of the late Tony Benn. He would have likely backed Leave - had he not been leader of a party which is largely pro-EU - at the time of the referendum.

Tom4784 16-12-2019 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10736092)
But that is also jargon. It's not happened no one knows

Except for various analysts and experts that make a career on being accurate and so far they've been right in their predictions that it's a disaster. Whenever there's a development with us heading towards Brexit, the value of the pound drops, to think that things won't be bad when Brexit happens is basically being overly optimistic in hopes of overwriting the facts at hand.

Scarlett. 16-12-2019 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10736096)

Ffs it's so old now

Kinda of like the "we won you lost, so be quiet" mentality is

Tom4784 16-12-2019 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dia. (Post 10736102)
Kinda of like the "we won you lost, so be quiet" mentality is

Such an undemocratic attitude too. 'We won, so you no longer have a right to an opinion because it upsets us!'.

Never mind the whole gross aspect of treating matters of governance like a sport.

Crimson Dynamo 16-12-2019 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dia. (Post 10736102)
Kinda of like the "we won you lost, so be quiet" mentality is

It's the view of Lord Heseltine. He is a skilled political person. Are you questioning his opinion?

rusticgal 16-12-2019 09:14 PM

The people voted to leave...the election proved that people want to leave and won’t be bullied by sour faced losers that tried desperately to overturn democracy. Now let’s move on.

Scarlett. 16-12-2019 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10736124)
It's the view of Lord Heseltine. He is a skilled political person. Are you questioning his opinion?

Lord Vaseline can say whatever he wants

Kizzy 16-12-2019 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 10736098)
Yeah, it is obvious from his record in politics that he is a Eurosceptic in the style of the late Tony Benn. He would have likely backed Leave - had he not been leader of a party which is largely pro-EU - at the time of the referendum.

But was it though, look at the labour heartlands lost to the northern brexiteers? Would those have fallen had he not been swayed by remain backing mps and ministers?


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