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Tom4784 03-01-2020 01:30 PM

We all knew that this election was going to be insane because as soon as Trump leaves office, he'd likely be arrested and spend the rest of his life in prison. He's fighting for his freedom in his mind and he's showing he'll burn the world down to get it.

Everything he has said about Hillary being a warmonger and that Obama would start wars to stay in power were true, but only for himself. Trump needs to be removed from power for the good of the world at this point, he will throw us all into war and he'll do so without a second thought.

With this act, Trump has become the biggest human danger to the world at this point in time. God help us all if he's doing **** like this before the 2020 race has even officially begun.

Nicky91 03-01-2020 01:33 PM

i feel for britain now, who wanted a Alliance with USA :(

Nicky91 03-01-2020 01:38 PM

also i was reading Qasem's Wikipedia profile just now

ok he did do bad things under Saddam

but he also fought with the Iraqi forces later on against ISIL, so the US murdered someone who was against terrorism, extremism

and US should think about how they killed a father of 2 sons, 2 daughters (not just about getting rid of a potential threat)

Oliver_W 03-01-2020 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10746171)
i feel for britain now, who wanted a Alliance with USA :(

Who else are we gonna ally with - China and Russia? The USA are the best possible allies, Trump will be gone in four years so no need to burn bridges over one crazy President....

Tom4784 03-01-2020 01:43 PM

It doesn't really matter if he was a good or bad figure, the US did not have grounds to act and Trump acted without the say so of either Congress or the Senate.

Oliver_W 03-01-2020 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10746176)
It doesn't really matter if he was a good or bad figure, the US did not have grounds to act and Trump acted without the say so of either Congress or the Senate.

I agree, I tried to find a "reason" for the air strike in the articles, but couldn't. I don't think it's gonna lead to WWIII, but it was certainly unwise.

Crimson Dynamo 03-01-2020 01:51 PM

In his first comments on the strike, Mr Trump tweeted on Friday morning: "General Qassem Soleimani has killed or badly wounded thousands of Americans over an extended period of time, and was plotting to kill many more...but got caught!

"He was directly and indirectly responsible for the death of millions of people, including the recent large number of PROTESTERS killed in Iran itself.

"While Iran will never be able to properly admit it, Soleimani was both hated and feared within the country. They are not nearly as saddened as the leaders will let the outside world believe. He should have been taken out many years ago!"

The Pentagon said the US President ordered the killing of Soleimani "in a decisive defensive action to protect US personnel abroad".


"General Soleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region. General Soleimani and his Quds Force were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and coalition service members and the wounding of thousands more," the Department of Defence said.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...te-quds-force/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENUspLoX...jpg&name=small

Tom4784 03-01-2020 01:54 PM

Excuses, he wants a war because he won't likely beat any of the top three democrats otherwise.

Nicky91 03-01-2020 01:59 PM

"in a decisive defensive action to protect US personnel abroad".

the irony here, in killing general soleimani made them more a target, and in danger from Iran

while Trump could've tried peace talks at a neutral location with Rohani


as for this

''General Soleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region.''

he did do bad bad things very long time ago yes, but recent years he was anti terrorism, anti extremism so idk which evidence they had to back their statement up :think:

Crimson Dynamo 03-01-2020 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10746185)

he did do bad bad things very long time ago yes, but recent years he was anti terrorism, anti extremism so idk which evidence they had to back their statement up :think:

In 2018 he threatened the Americans with a war in which Iran would “destroy all that you possess".


:conf:

Beso 03-01-2020 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10746184)
Excuses, he wants a war because he won't likely beat any of the top three democrats otherwise.

I'm sure you don't mean that.

Tom4784 03-01-2020 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10746191)
I'm sure you don't mean that.

No, he's trailing hard behind all of them in the analytics and if Bernie gets the nom then he's lost the swing vote and the worker's vote that just edged him over the line in 2016.

This whole act of war is nothing more then to keep himself in power so he can avoid the inevitable consequences of his actions for a few years more.

Beso 03-01-2020 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10746192)
No, he's trailing hard behind all of them in the analytics and if Bernie gets the nom then he's lost the swing vote and the worker's vote that just edged him over the line in 2016.

This whole act of war is nothing more then to keep himself in power so he can avoid the inevitable consequences of his actions for a few years more.




I don't believe that.

arista 03-01-2020 02:28 PM

Typical Labour Emily Thornberry
supports Iran

Clip was on LBC.

Crimson Dynamo 03-01-2020 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10746201)
Typical Labour Emily Thornberry
supports Iran

Clip was on LBC.

Yes a caller called her unpatriotic and anti-American

The Slim Reaper 03-01-2020 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10746190)
In 2018 he threatened the Americans with a war in which Iran would “destroy all that you possess".


:conf:

North Korea has been threatening the same for decades, and they actually do have nukes. Trump seems to love Kim though.

:conf:

Crimson Dynamo 03-01-2020 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10746205)
North Korea has been threatening the same for decades, and they actually do have nukes. Trump seems to love Kim though.

:conf:

https://thewayofimprovement.files.wo...pg?w=605&h=461

Tom4784 03-01-2020 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10746199)
I don't believe that.

And that doesn't change the fact that it's true. Trump doesn't have a Hillary to rely on this time around, he won't have russian leaks either and if he tries the same tactics, everyone has a Ukraine sized counter argument to use against him.

He can't win this election without starting a war, whether you believe it or not doesn't matter to anyone really, you can deny reality but you can't stop it from happening.

The Slim Reaper 03-01-2020 02:38 PM

The best ya got?

https://media0.giphy.com/media/7NWhfa1lEHPqw/giphy.gif

Tom4784 03-01-2020 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10746209)

Accusing someone of whataboutism only works if they are trying to justify something by saying 'well, what about this?'. Highlighting someone's hypocrisy by mentioning their different reactions to two similar situations is not whataboutism, it's pointing out hypocrisy.

Beso 03-01-2020 02:54 PM

I'm sure you were calling a 2nd term for trump a little while back...calling has supporters idiots in the process. .I may be wrong so will admit it if I am.

Tom4784 03-01-2020 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10746234)
I'm sure you were calling a 2nd term for trump a little while back...calling has supporters idiots in the process. .I may be wrong so will admit it if I am.

It's possible, after all stupidity won the day in 2016 and I do fear the corruption that could steal this election but the more I hear about the stats and forecasts, the more hopeful I become.

Unlike some people, I look at facts that are contrary to my opinion and learn from them, not discard them. You should try it sometime.

arista 03-01-2020 03:22 PM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cp...v043811904.jpg

His Truck
hit by three super fast missiles
fired from a High up out of sight Drone.
Instant Death for Gen Qasem Soleimani


Iran says they will return with a
Harsh Attack on Americans?

Nicky91 03-01-2020 03:49 PM

https://www.lepoint.fr/images/2012/0...08_660x281.JPG

this guy, Esmail Ghaani is the replacement of Soleimani

Scarlett. 03-01-2020 03:55 PM

I hope we stay the hell out of all this, but I doubt we will, since America will have us on a leash post-Brexit


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