...thank you...abuse of power, not power of...those are completely different things...

Who are the others? Because if so I'll be put off them as well.

You don't have to like the artist to enjoy the art.

Most people in the arts are strange, perverted, fruit cakes.

I believe Madonna was one of a host of names in Jeffrey Epstein's little Black book.

Well the obvious ones being Elvis & Jerry Lewis :idc: , Also rumours Bowie did the same.

I think there's plenty of others, I'm honestly not surprised by Jagger . Those rock stars have slept with so many people ,you know they don't care if they're of legal age or not :bored: .

Madonna was friends with Epstein or a victim? I just need that clarified.:laugh:

I don't know, I know that her name was on a long list of celebrities that had ties with him. Jaggers name was on that list too.

Elvis tbf really was a different time to nowadays, or the 70's/80's where there's more research into minors maturity levels.

And I don't know much about Jerry Lewis.:laugh:

:worry:

Don't worry, nothing will come out about her, she's too rich.

Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin. She still believed in Santa Claus when she married, so the story Goes.

...So far as I know, there is no link between Epstein and Madonna at all...

In that time period I'll take teen.:laugh:

Even if that is disturbingly close to Jimmy Saville level of sick.

Sick.

And why do people trying to excuse it by pointing out that others did the same as if that makes it ok?

It's illegal, its wrong, its sick.

...:worship:...indeed....if it was all a ‘spectrum’, then it would be on that spectrum alongside grooming...’rock n roll’ doesn’t change that...

...the title change...:love:...no one ‘bonked’ anyone...’bonking’ is not applicable to a child...

Where has anybody in this thread excused it? And if others have done the same, what do you have against them being exposed too?

Bonking is a perfectly acceptable word, you are not God.

...if you’re referring to me..then I’m not God, no...it doesn’t take God or a god to know that sexual acts with children can never be consensual so adult terms can never be applied...

But you're happy for adult, sexual terms to be taught in Primary Schools, are you not? Don't you usually come out in opposition when people are saying that kids are being sexulised in Schools?

Primary school kids are not taught about sex, they are taught about love and relationships. They do not use any adult terms, they are taught in simple child vocabulary. They are certainly not taught that statutory rape can be classed as bonking

But Arista said that this girl consented.

So the crime isn't rape, the crime is sex with a minor.

Sex with a minor is statutory rape but whatever its called, its illegal

Are you actually defending the fact that a 30odd year old man allegedly had sex with a child over semantics?

...any PHSE taught in schools has equivalence in some way...I’ll leave you to your self professed trolling and baiting and letting me know what makes me happy ...

Bye

Its all very unsavory but then on another thread a recently deceased star is being elevated to God like status even though he was charged with rape of a 19 year old, so not sure why one is getting a pass, maybe Mick needs to die tragically for this to be glossed over