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LukeB 15-02-2020 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Evil (Post 10779902)
I’m pretty much the same as this tbh.

I don’t think the show is entirely to blame, I think social media and the tabloids are partly to blame as well.

You see no one hardly blames social media and the tabloids just the show because they don't like it. Social and the tabloids have been toxic and trash for many years way before Li got the reboot. As Morgan said Sophie was down to something that didn't come from the show and Mike had more blacklash and bad press from other shows and obviously Caroline's had absolutely nothing to do with the show.

Jessica. 15-02-2020 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10779907)
Love Island honestly has more negative impacts on society than positive, suicides aside, it’s vapid and I genuinely think it’s deteimental to young people’s mental health.

I was chatting with my manager a while ago and she was talking about how her 16 year old wants a boob job and lip fillers to look better, because of what she’s seen on love island

That is horrendous

Braden 15-02-2020 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10779912)
You see no one hardly blames social media and the tabloids just the show because they don't like it. Social and the tabloids have been toxic and trash for many years way before Li got the reboot. As Morgan said Sophie was down to something that didn't come from the show and Mike had more blacklash and bad press from other shows and obviously Caroline's had absolutely nothing to do with the show.

That’s the thing, social media and tabloids have always been laced with toxicity—they’re complicit—but no other tv show has had the number of suicides linked to it as Love Island has in such a tight timeframe.

Morgan. 15-02-2020 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Braden (Post 10779859)
How many people linked to this show have to die for it to become an issue, though?

It becomes an issue when people are dying as a direct result of the show. As I said, lots of people kill themselves over stress, depression etc. Should we abolish schools because some students can’t cope with the pressure to succeed?

Dogeatdog 15-02-2020 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10779912)
You see no one hardly blames social media and the tabloids just the show because they don't like it. Social and the tabloids have been toxic and trash for many years way before Li got the reboot. As Morgan said Sophie was down to something that didn't come from the show and Mike had more blacklash and bad press from other shows and obviously Caroline's had absolutely nothing to do with the show.

And this is something that personally for me needs changing but sadly it never will. I mean look at how awful the tabloids were during BB’s hey day, imagine if social media was around then? I couldn’t imagine how this also impacts someone’s mental health.

LukeB 15-02-2020 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Braden (Post 10779917)
That’s the thing, social media and tabloids have always been laced with toxicity—they’re complicit—but no other tv show has had the number of suicides linked to it as Love Island has in such a tight timeframe.

They might be linked to it but they are linked to other stuff as well:shrug:

Braden 15-02-2020 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Morgan. (Post 10779919)
It becomes an issue when people are dying as a direct result of the show. As I said, lots of people kill themselves over stress, depression etc. Should we abolish schools because some students can’t cope with the pressure to succeed?

If three people from the same class took their own lives, I would say that there would need to be a thorough investigation as to why that is happening.

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10779921)
They might be linked to it but they are linked to other stuff as well:shrug:

Yeah, that’s true, but I am wondering if it’s the show that is ultimately the beginning of a domino effect.

Jake. 15-02-2020 06:19 PM

3 deaths in 5 years isn’t a good look for any show, regardless of the specifics of each individual suicide. I don’t personally see how it can continue tbh.

Morgan. 15-02-2020 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Braden (Post 10779944)
If three people from the same class took their own lives, I would say that there would need to be a thorough investigation as to why that is happening.

But a class has 30 people, Love Island has had over 150. I’m sorry I’m just really not seeing the correlation here.

Shaun 15-02-2020 06:21 PM

It's hard to take a moral highground against it when we are... literally on a forum about Big Brother :shrug: a show that also didn't give a damn about the mental health of some of its participants.

But there's a more hollow, artificial element to Love Island than there was around Big Brother, I think, and unless you build a career off of LI and become liked by its viewers, it must be a pretty dismal existence after it ends.

Marsh. 15-02-2020 06:23 PM

Get it OFF our screens.

Braden 15-02-2020 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Morgan. (Post 10779959)
But a class has 30 people, Love Island has had over 150. I’m sorry I’m just really not seeing the correlation here.

Even if three different people took that class over five years, that’s three suicides out of 150 people. It’s still cause for concern, imo. I totally get that other things play into this, but I can’t help but think that Love Island is the catalyst.

Wizard. 15-02-2020 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10779907)
Love Island honestly has more negative impacts on society than positive, suicides aside, it’s vapid and I genuinely think it’s deteimental to young people’s mental health.

I was chatting with my manager a while ago and she was talking about how her 16 year old wants a boob job and lip fillers to look better, because of what she’s seen on love island

Then they need to cast it better? Honestly I thought it was bad before I started watching last year and I enjoy it now, I just think they need more diversity. But then when they put someone like Shaugna in everyone on twitter calls her fat and chunky legs so is the show the problem or social media in general

LukeB 15-02-2020 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard. (Post 10780003)
Then they need to cast it better? Honestly I thought it was bad before I started watching last year and I enjoy it now, I just think they need more diversity. But then when they put someone like Shaugna in everyone on twitter calls her fat and chunky legs so is the show the problem or social media in general

More needs to be done with social media and tabloids too that's the main issue. People get trolled and abuse on any show and only the victims suffer the consequences.

Wizard. 15-02-2020 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10780013)
More needs to be done with social media and tabloids too that's the main issue. People get trolled and abuse on any show and only the victims suffer the consequences.

Yeah and it’s very complex as people are complex

Someone who is mentally stable and doesn’t have anything else going wrong in their life could just brush it off fine

Although LI wasn’t directly involved in these deaths, we’ll never really know if Sophie and Mike being on the show started something and that coupled with their existing and ongoing issues could’ve resulted in their deaths.

Caroline might’ve “stepped down” but we all know she would’ve been pushed out. Being without a job in winter, along with the court case and the abuse and trolling have all contributed to her death I think.

Saph 15-02-2020 07:04 PM

No because its a guilty pleasure of mine :skull:

Greg! 15-02-2020 07:10 PM

Yes unless they bring in some gays next season

Strictly Jake 15-02-2020 07:13 PM

No not yet but it doesnt have a long life left in it like bb had

Saph 15-02-2020 07:20 PM

its popularity is slowly decreasing now, I think it has a good 2/3 years left in it yet before it gets the chop

Jessica. 15-02-2020 07:29 PM

I think the main problem is how undiverse the show is, it could be so wholesome if they chose people of various ages with various body types to compete. 27 year olds are fossils in the love island world.

Another thing that is just my personal opinion is that people who have had body image issues which have probably affected their mental health, to the point that they have had surgery, probably shouldn't be put in the limelight where people will pick them apart and judge them so harshly.

Calderyon 15-02-2020 07:30 PM

Won't mind if it does, won't mind if it doesn't.

Greg! 15-02-2020 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 10780048)
I think the main problem is how undiverse the show is, it could be so wholesome if they chose people of various ages with various body types to compete. 27 year olds are fossils in the love island world.

Another thing that is just my personal opinion is that people who have had body image issues which have probably affected their mental health, to the point that they have had surgery, probably shouldn't be put in the limelight where people will pick them apart and judge them so harshly.

:clap1:

Greg! 15-02-2020 07:43 PM

Big Brother had its (huge) faults but at least the housemates usually had varied backgrounds, personalities, size and appearance. One of LI’s many problems is the lack of body diversity

LukeB 15-02-2020 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 10780056)
Big Brother had its (huge) faults but at least the housemates usually had varied backgrounds, personalities, size and appearance. One of LI’s many problems is the lack of body diversity

issue is the ones who don't have the perfect body because there were some that didn't, they got trolled. Shaughna's legs were trending most nights and made fun of. which isn't the shows fault. I agree the show does need more body diversity not just 1 person but you then have to think of the trolls will they be able to handle it?

Zizu 15-02-2020 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10779907)
Love Island honestly has more negative impacts on society than positive, suicides aside, it’s vapid and I genuinely think it’s deteimental to young people’s mental health.

I was chatting with my manager a while ago and she was talking about how her 16 year old wants a boob job and lip fillers to look better, because of what she’s seen on love island



That’s the thing I don’t get . Nobody looks better with fake boobs or lip filler .

I saw a survey that said that only males under 21 PREFERRED fake boobs to naturally ones ..

Guessing a lot of them have never seen fake boobs in the flesh or seen how the lie when flat or even felt how weird they feel . Those young men also described natural boobs as SAGGY !!!!

Crazy crazy


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