Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10786219)

Anthony Joshua is decent, respectful person.

Tyson Fury is entitled to his own beliefs and people are entitled to think he's a **** for holding them as well :shrug:

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10786239)

Don’t know why the shrug, my point it’s about one just opens his mouth and let’s the words come out without thinking and one thinks about everything he says not to damage his brand.

Plus people can change and people can change their minds.

Not to long ago you thought the sun shone out of Conor mcgreggors bum, and look how that turd turned out, getting women pregnant behind his partners back and punching pensioners on the sly in pubs.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10786219)

Anthony Joshua is decent, respectful person.

Tyson Fury is entitled to his own beliefs and people are entitled to think he's a **** for holding them as well :shrug:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10786243)

Exactly how I feel.

I always think Anthony Joshua is a testament to his Mum... she did something so right with him.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10786245)

or maybe they dont but the veil slips

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10786173)

https://boxrec.com/media/images/thum...TysonFury1.jpg



So he is nailed on to win that award but its only a few years since he expressed these views:


In a 2015 interview, he compared being gay to paedophilia and claimed that homosexuality is “one of the three things that will lead to the apocalypse”.

He said: “There are only three things that need to be accomplished before the devil comes home. One of them is homosexuality being legal in countries, one of them is abortion and the other one is paedophiles.”

In a 2016 hour-long rant, the boxer made anti-semitic remarks, alongside a series of disturbing comments about rape, bestiality and paedophilia.

He said: “Everyone just do what you can, listen to the government follow everybody like sheep, be brainwashed by all the Zionist, Jewish people who own all the banks, all the papers, all the TV stations.”

Fury also previously said that the “Gay Rights Act 1977”, which does not exist, was backed by supporters of legalising paedophilia.

In an interview which surfaced in 2017, he said: “I have newspaper evidence that suggest that the Gay Rights Act of 1977 backed in favour of paedophilia being legalised in the UK. So how dare I say that, but how dare it be on the national paper…. These are the people, these are now politicians or whatever in the country…”

In the same interview, he added his “personal belief” was that “a woman’s best place is in the kitchen and on her back”.

Fury has denied being homophobic, but has long refused to directly apologise for his comments and in 2018 stormed out of an interview after being challenged on them.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/02/2...eontay-wilder/

Should we be lauding this man as a British hero so soon after such views or is it so far in the past as to not matter as much?

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10786264)

I heard this on the radio this morning,They were saying how he seems to have been forgiven but not the likes of Danny Baker and Alistair Stewert, his remarks are very out dated ,he doesn't seem a very nice man.:fist:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10786272)

Danny Baker and Alistair Stewert work in the media and should be media savvy, I don't know in what world they would be comparable.



We should be comparing him to Kobe Bryant who comes from the same world who was forgiven for rape with violence

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10786173)

https://boxrec.com/media/images/thum...TysonFury1.jpg



So he is nailed on to win that award but its only a few years since he expressed these views:


In a 2015 interview, he compared being gay to paedophilia and claimed that homosexuality is “one of the three things that will lead to the apocalypse”.

He said: “There are only three things that need to be accomplished before the devil comes home. One of them is homosexuality being legal in countries, one of them is abortion and the other one is paedophiles.”

In a 2016 hour-long rant, the boxer made anti-semitic remarks, alongside a series of disturbing comments about rape, bestiality and paedophilia.

He said: “Everyone just do what you can, listen to the government follow everybody like sheep, be brainwashed by all the Zionist, Jewish people who own all the banks, all the papers, all the TV stations.”

Fury also previously said that the “Gay Rights Act 1977”, which does not exist, was backed by supporters of legalising paedophilia.

In an interview which surfaced in 2017, he said: “I have newspaper evidence that suggest that the Gay Rights Act of 1977 backed in favour of paedophilia being legalised in the UK. So how dare I say that, but how dare it be on the national paper…. These are the people, these are now politicians or whatever in the country…”

In the same interview, he added his “personal belief” was that “a woman’s best place is in the kitchen and on her back”.

Fury has denied being homophobic, but has long refused to directly apologise for his comments and in 2018 stormed out of an interview after being challenged on them.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/02/2...eontay-wilder/

Should we be lauding this man as a British hero so soon after such views or is it so far in the past as to not matter as much?

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10786242)

Yep that's true and I changed my mind because of stuff he did and said..............that's being consistent, don't you think?

I do need to pick you up on one error though, he did have a DNA test for that baby in Liverpool and it wasn't his. (I'm sure he still cheated on Dee many times though)

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10786229)

So that means he gets a pass for all the disgusting stuff he's said? Not in my world. He has a mind of his own

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10786214)

He says he was misquoted, and also we don't know what mental state he was in, he has apologised and moved on

He allegedly has donated his 7 million purse from the first Wilder fight to Alcohol and Drug Charities in the UK? learning from your mistakes and championing charities is role model stuff to me, who here hasn't made a mistake in life?

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10786279)

So on the note of changing your mind or opinion of someone they also can change in the way they think.

I think it’s how much you want to invest into someone you don’t know personally.

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 10786281)

Indeed, but maybe we should allow for the fact that he is intellectually lacking.
A complete asshole of a man who doesn’t deserve the accolade of Sports personality of the year.

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10786272)

Danny Baker and Alistair Stewert work in the media and should be media savvy, I don't know in what world they would be comparable.



We should be comparing him to Kobe Bryant who comes from the same world who was forgiven for rape with violence

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10786276)

Weird how no even mentioned it about him, I didn't hear about that till someone mentioned it on FB and they got torn apart for daring to mention it....what the **** is wrong with people

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10786224)

and Fury is a product of his environment, as far as I know AJ was brought up by his Mum so he will have had different influences in his life

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10786243)

Exactly how I feel.

I always think Anthony Joshua is a testament to his Mum... she did something so right with him.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10786297)

Many people are raised in environments tainted by hatred and yet they are not always hateful. That excuse only goes so far, really. Everyone who isn't hateful comes to a realisation that what they were taught were wrong.

I was raised in a deeply racist area yet I'm not racist myself because I came to my own conclusions.