Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10805235)

That has been denied by Downing Street so who to believe a newspaper or a political correspondent :shrug: depends on your political leaning I suppose.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coron...ie/ar-BB11xpk3

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10805240)

I think it's easy to forget the suddenness with which this has all exploded. Nobody was contemplating a situation like we have now 2 or 3 weeks ago. Only 2 months ago the Chinese were assuring us that the virus couldn't be transmitted from person to person. It's a completely new phenomenon which is not well understood and the science behind it is changing all the time. I think the very least we owe any government trying to respond to this is to cut them a bit of slack because there is no precedent for this and there is no 'right' course of action. I'm already dreading all the smug commentators who use the power of hindsight in a few months time to cast blame on various figures and tell the tale of where it all went wrong. Imo we should all just be grateful that we don't have to carry the burden of decision making over the lives of millions of people.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10805237)

Of course he cares Kate, afterall he is not immune from it or his pregnant girlfriend and look how they have pulled out all the stops,people that don't like him will never give him any credit.

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10805240)

I think it's easy to forget the suddenness with which this has all exploded. Nobody was contemplating a situation like we have now 2 or 3 weeks ago. Only 2 months ago the Chinese were assuring us that the virus couldn't be transmitted from person to person. It's a completely new phenomenon which is not well understood and the science behind it is changing all the time. I think the very least we owe any government trying to respond to this is to cut them a bit of slack because there is no precedent for this and there is no 'right' course of action. I'm already dreading all the smug commentators who use the power of hindsight in a few months time to cast blame on various figures and tell the tale of where it all went wrong. Imo we should all just be grateful that we don't have to carry the burden of decision making over the lives of millions of people.

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10805240)

I think it's easy to forget the suddenness with which this has all exploded. Nobody was contemplating a situation like we have now 2 or 3 weeks ago. Only 2 months ago the Chinese were assuring us that the virus couldn't be transmitted from person to person. It's a completely new phenomenon which is not well understood and the science behind it is changing all the time. I think the very least we owe any government trying to respond to this is to cut them a bit of slack because there is no precedent for this and there is no 'right' course of action. I'm already dreading all the smug commentators who use the power of hindsight in a few months time to cast blame on various figures and tell the tale of where it all went wrong. Imo we should all just be grateful that we don't have to carry the burden of decision making over the lives of millions of people.

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10805216)

Nope, completely incompetent, the death toll from this will be terrifying due to his slow response and lack of action.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10805248)

and you know this based on what experience?

Virology?

Crisis management?

Medical degree?

Being in Government?

Being a Civil servant

Working in the NHS?

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10805247)

:clap1::clap1:Well said ,so many people who think they know better than anyone else, it's so easy to blame those who are telling us what we should do ,how about everyone gets behind the powers that be and follow the advice.

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10805226)

Him not acting quick enough and now his voter base is all gonna die like, hello, irony

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10805246)

Having said that he did close my pub so bollocks to him

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10805243)

I'm not cheerleading for him to fail, I've just seen the way this has been handled. We're in for a rude awakening in this country in a few weeks time. I have loved ones that rely on getting this right. I couldn't give a sh1t about him personally, only what his actions could potentially cost us, and more selfishly, me.

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10805240)

I think it's easy to forget the suddenness with which this has all exploded. Nobody was contemplating a situation like we have now 2 or 3 weeks ago. Only 2 months ago the Chinese were assuring us that the virus couldn't be transmitted from person to person. It's a completely new phenomenon which is not well understood and the science behind it is changing all the time. I think the very least we owe any government trying to respond to this is to cut them a bit of slack because there is no precedent for this and there is no 'right' course of action. I'm already dreading all the smug commentators who use the power of hindsight in a few months time to cast blame on various figures and tell the tale of where it all went wrong. Imo we should all just be grateful that we don't have to carry the burden of decision making over the lives of millions of people.

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10805255)

In situations like this though, every HOUR counts and he’s left certain things for days longer than he should have, it’ll cost lives

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10805254)

But isn't it OUR actions putting people at risk,some will just NOT follow the advice as some are just ignorant morons.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10805245)

i will support him and follow the advice given, if i think it's for the best. I don't offer a blanket support though. We can all make judgements from our arm chairs about what is right, what is wrong and if it was done in a timely manner etc. I think the strategy they are trying is to get the country on board with the choices rather than hammering them into submission, because that just won't work. For example, people want a lock down now ... they wouldn't have been so keen on that 2 weeks ago ... timing is critical in terms of effect and uptake

The biggest flag to me today was the medical officer preparing people for the fact that we are going to have a similar situation to italy, many are going to die. The effects on mental health at this point shouldn't be underestimated. The virus itself is but one aspect of the overall problem

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10805247)

:clap1::clap1:Well said ,so many people who think they know better than anyone else, it's so easy to blame those who are telling us what we should do ,how about everyone gets behind the powers that be and follow the advice.

Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10805250)

Yes all of the above

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10805261)

dont you work in a call centre doing HR?

(newish job)?

Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 10805260)

They are not immune from criticism? Especially as other countries are taking stricter lockdown measures and seeing falls in corona figures so we should follow precedent. Dither and delay (his words!) will only cost us more lives.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10805257)

again

what are your credentials for these comments?

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10805261)

dont you work in a call centre doing HR?

(newish job)?

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10805256)

Imagine if Corbyn had been in charge with Diane Abbott

it just is not worth thinking about