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GoldHeart 11-04-2020 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10820921)
Yes Lockdown for a year.
is common sense.

M&S Foods
keep us going.

No I don't think we'll be in complete lockdown for a year, but we'll still have some restrictions .

It's also going to take a while for crowds to be allowed again. And people with health conditions will have to still be careful.

Denver 11-04-2020 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10820921)
Yes Lockdown for a year.
is common sense.

M&S Foods
keep us going.

It is impossible to do lockdown for a year

arista 11-04-2020 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan (Post 10820928)
It is impossible to do lockdown for a year


But all over the World
it will be that way
Of Course Austria is now trying
a new face mask law
good luck to them.


Adam
while Covid 19 has a hold
Nothing is Impossible.


It's a shock for President Trump
who will soon be top of the World Death list

user104658 11-04-2020 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10820893)
You have to take into account the size of the US population before you can draw any kind of comparison with them.

I've been trying to tell arista that these numbers don't mean that much unless you scale by population size since February. He's not listening, Livia :fist:.

Even comparing Spain to Italy for example, Spain was hit harder than it looks at first glance, as they have a population of 40m compared to Italy's 60m.

The US should be "expected" to be 5x Italy/UK because they have 5x the population (not 10x Smithy :nono:) but in part its like comparing apples to oranges... Some of the big, open states will be able to handle it much better because of "natural" social distancing (small population per square mile) whereas if you just take New York City as an example separate to the whole US, the figures are especially harsh. Nearly 6000 deaths in a population of 8 million. Although its a similar situation in London.

Denver 11-04-2020 12:34 PM

The economy has already been destroyed by a short lockdown, a long term one will obliterate the economy

arista 11-04-2020 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan (Post 10820934)
The economy has already been destroyed by a short lockdown, a long term one will obliterate the economy

Yes we will enter a Depression

arista 11-04-2020 12:36 PM

"He's not listening"


I am TS
a enjoy your views

Kate! 11-04-2020 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan (Post 10820934)
The economy has already been destroyed by a short lockdown, a long term one will obliterate the economy

Yes this is why lockdown will not be as long as most seem to think.

arista 11-04-2020 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kate! (Post 10820937)
Yes this is why lockdown will not be as long as most seem to think.


So you want more Deaths?

user104658 11-04-2020 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10820932)
But all over the World

it will be that way

Its literally impossible, so no, it won't. Most likely there will be close monitoring and shorter "localised" lockdowns.

Some aspects simply can't continue that long without literally killing more people; tragically, there has already been a marked increase in non-covid deaths because people are scared to, or unable to, access medical attention. The press aren't talking about that much, though.

If you extended to a year you would have people going undiagnosed with cancers and other chronic conditions for so long that they would be too late to get treatment. These things all have to be factored in.

arista 11-04-2020 12:40 PM

"The US should be "expected" to be 5x Italy/UK because they have 5x the population (not 10x Smithy ) but in part its like comparing apples to oranges.."

Yes we need Smithy
in Real Time

Kate! 11-04-2020 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10820939)
So you want more Deaths?

I never said that Arista. :oh: But this can't go on indefinitely. The onus is on the Gov to test like mad.

user104658 11-04-2020 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10820939)
So you want more Deaths?

People will start to die of other conditions quite quickly (already happening) because of isolation and lack of access. That will start to increase exponentially after 6 months. And a lockdown that triggers a full economic collapse will kill millions.

arista 11-04-2020 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10820940)
Its literally impossible, so no, it won't. Most likely there will be close monitoring and shorter "localised" lockdowns.

Some aspects simply can't continue that long without literally killing more people; tragically, there has already been a marked increase in non-covid deaths because people are scared to, or unable to, access medical attention. The press aren't talking about that much, though.

If you extended to a year you would have people going undiagnosed with cancers and other chronic conditions for so long that they would be too late to get treatment. These things all have to be factored in.


Not in England.


And Yes TS
more will sadly Die
as they can not get the Cancer Treatment.



Covid 19 is a Mega Killer in the World

arista 11-04-2020 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10820946)
People will start to die of other conditions quite quickly (already happening) because of isolation and lack of access. That will start to increase exponentially after 6 months. And a lockdown that triggers a full economic collapse will kill millions.


Yes its a Shocking Future
Johnson /Raab are stuck
and can not stop a Depression.

arista 11-04-2020 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kate! (Post 10820944)
I never said that Arista. :oh: But this can't go on indefinitely. The onus is on the Gov to test like mad.


Of Course
that's why a Year is a good Start




The Government are not building extra Test labs
So Post them to Germany Roche Labs

[Roche initiates global phase III study and
collects data on Actemra’s potential utility
in severe COVID-19 pneumonia patients]

Kate! 11-04-2020 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10820950)
Of Course
that's why a Year is a good Start




The Government are not building extra Test labs
So Post them to Germany Roche

[Roche initiates global phase III study and
collects data on Actemra’s potential utility
in severe COVID-19 pneumonia patients]

A year is far too long.

Denver 11-04-2020 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10820950)
Of Course
that's why a Year is a good Start




The Government are not building extra Test labs
So Post them to Germany Roche Labs

[Roche initiates global phase III study and
collects data on Actemra’s potential utility
in severe COVID-19 pneumonia patients]

You clearly know nothing then Arista,if you think a year is great for the economy then you need to see a doctor

arista 11-04-2020 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan (Post 10820954)
You clearly know nothing then Arista,if you think a year is great for the economy then you need to see a doctor


No I do not want that all.


But I can Survive a Depression

arista 11-04-2020 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kate! (Post 10820953)
A year is far too long.

But it is saving lives.
So get ready for a UK Depression


Johnson /Raab
are not building big test labs

user104658 11-04-2020 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10820947)
Not in England.





And Yes TS

more will sadly Die

as they can not get the Cancer Treatment.







Covid 19 is a Mega Killer in the World

The point is arista, if it goes on too long, more people will die of cancer (and other undiagnosed chronic conditions, strokes, heart attacks, sepsis etc.) than would die of Covid by starting to reduce lockdown measures after the peak.

They have to balance that out and I'm confident that they will.

Kate! 11-04-2020 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10820960)
The point is arista, if it goes on too long, more people will die of cancer (and other undiagnosed chronic conditions, strokes, heart attacks, sepsis etc.) than would die of Covid by starting to reduce lockdown measures after the peak.

They have to balance that out and I'm confident that they will.

This.

arista 11-04-2020 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10820960)
The point is arista, if it goes on too long, more people will die of cancer (and other undiagnosed chronic conditions, strokes, heart attacks, sepsis etc.) than would die of Covid by starting to reduce lockdown measures after the peak.

They have to balance that out and I'm confident that they will.


Yes You Are Right
more Cancer people were all waiting to be saved
then Covid 19 changed their future.

They can not "balance it out"
I like your vision- but it is not our sad future

Denver 11-04-2020 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10820955)

No I do not want that all.


But I can Survive a Depression

That's selfish though isnt it? Just because you can survive it doesnt mean millions of others can

arista 11-04-2020 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kate! (Post 10820965)
This.


Yes Kate
TS is Correct
but sadly Covid 19
has taken over Wards

Radio4 LIVE right now
its all down to cost


Johnson /Raab
Failed


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