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Redway 02-06-2020 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10854542)
The UK should address any racism that is the UK, not spend the bandwidth talking about other continents.

What makes you think you have the right to tell black people how to react, hm?

user104658 02-06-2020 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 10854547)
What makes you think you have the right to tell black people how to react, hm?

To be fair to ol' Oliver there, he's talking about his opinion on what the UK government should be doing, not what any individual should be doing.

Though personally while I think it's true that the government of any country's MAIN focus should be on tackling the issue at home, I'd have much more respect for a Prime Minister who would at least vocalise some sympathy for the **** going on in the US. Total silence is really just tacit support for the US government's handling of the issue.

Gstar 03-06-2020 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10854542)
The UK should address any racism that is the UK, not spend the bandwidth talking about other continents.

Racist murderers aka American police affects POC in the UK just as much as America, just because it’s in a different country it doesn’t mean that we don’t feel the hurt and anger. It’s been an ongoing issue for many years and the world has just about had enough

Kizzy 03-06-2020 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10854111)
Has there been condemnation from any European leaders yet?

UK Government is currently dealing with the situation in Hong Kong, maybe another country could step up for now?

Are any other European leaders crawling up trumps rear for trade deals?... no.
All countries have their own issues, your strawman argument is irrelevant.

We've always had a 'special relationship' with the US, that usually means whoever America wants to bomb we'll create such a false narrative about it in the media the public practically beg the government to help blow whoever and wherever to Kingdom come.

We'll be with them on this too.

Cherie 03-06-2020 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10854583)
Are any other European leaders crawling up trumps rear for trade deals?... no.
All countries have their own issues, your strawman argument is irrelevant.

We've always had a 'special relationship' with the US, that usually means whoever America wants to bomb we'll create such a false narrative about it in the media the public practically beg the government to help blow whoever and wherever to Kingdom come.

We'll be with them on this too.

The EU have no interest in trading with the USA, is that what you are saying.?

The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership ( TTIP) is a proposed trade agreement between the European Union and the United States, with the aim of promoting trade and multilateral economic growth. Aug 26 2019

Crimson Dynamo 03-06-2020 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Gstar (Post 10854566)
Racist murderers aka American police affects POC in the UK just as much as America, just because it’s in a different country it doesn’t mean that we don’t feel the hurt and anger. It’s been an ongoing issue for many years and the world has just about had enough

It barely registers with the world

It's an issue for the USA only

Oliver_W 03-06-2020 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gstar (Post 10854566)
Racist murderers aka American police affects POC in the UK just as much as America, just because it’s in a different country it doesn’t mean that we don’t feel the hurt and anger. It’s been an ongoing issue for many years and the world has just about had enough

Why does it affect you? There's a whole planet out there were people murder each other. I don't get personally offended by white farmers being murdered in South Africa, because it's a different country.

Niamh. 03-06-2020 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10854111)
Has there been condemnation from any European leaders yet?



UK Government is currently dealing with the situation in Hong Kong, maybe another country could step up for now?

Leo commented on it


Samm 03-06-2020 08:28 AM

This thread is full of ignorant white people telling black people how they should react smh.

You guys are part of the problem.

Cherie 03-06-2020 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10854614)
Leo commented on it


Did he denounce Trump? it was commented on at yesterdays briefing as well if anyone is interested, they didn't denounce a foreign leader though any more than they have denounced China's leader during the pandemic

Cherie 03-06-2020 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Samm (Post 10854617)
This thread is full of ignorant white people telling black people how they should react smh.

You guys are part of the problem.

I haven't told anyone black or white how they should react, you are very fond of telling people how they should react though

Niamh. 03-06-2020 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10854628)
Did he denounce Trump? it was commented on at yesterdays briefing as well if anyone is interested

I posted what his tweet so you could read what he said :shrug:

Cherie 03-06-2020 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10854630)
I posted what his tweet so you could read what he said :shrug:

I cant see a tweet :suspect:

The Slim Reaper 03-06-2020 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10854614)
Leo commented on it


Having to clean up your mistakes again :fist:

Crimson Dynamo 03-06-2020 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Samm (Post 10854617)
This thread is full of ignorant white people telling black people how they should react smh.

You guys are part of the problem.

perhaps you should make threads "black responses only please" and then white people could know not to post an opinion?:shrug:

not sure how you would know the "colour" of a poster however

Cherie 03-06-2020 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10854635)
Having to clean up your mistakes again :fist:

Thank you, not too much different from what Matt Hancock said at the briefing yesterday :laugh:

Lets see what Bojo has to say at PMQs today

Denver 03-06-2020 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10854596)
It barely registers with the world

It's an issue for the USA only

That's why millions of people in dozens of countries have been protesting

Niamh. 03-06-2020 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10854635)
Having to clean up your mistakes again :fist:

Thanks, I'm using my phone [emoji39] although I can see it in my screen

Oliver_W 03-06-2020 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 10854639)
That's why millions of people in dozens of countries have been protesting

If people choose to get riled up about things happening elsewhere in the world that's up to them.

bots 03-06-2020 09:13 AM

Trump is a symptom of the problem in the USA, not the cause. Trump blusters all the time, that's who he is. You won't hear any allies directly criticize him as it serves zero purpose. Let's not forget that there was a black president in charge of the USA for 8 years where nothing changed, he had a vice president during that time named Biden who also did nothing. This isn't about 1 man, the police force or any other hate figure. It's an endemic problem that will take generations to resolve, so while the protesters are doing a good job of bringing attention to the problems, don't expect anything to change for a long, long, long time.

Crimson Dynamo 03-06-2020 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RileyH (Post 10854050)
The UK is no better than the US. Racism and police brutality exist here, and in every country.

I am afraid that is simple untrue and i cant even see where you would get such an idea from (have you even been to Scotland, wales or NI for example?)

Samm 03-06-2020 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10854651)
I am afraid that is simple untrue and i cant even see where you would get such an idea from (have you even been to Scotland, wales or NI for example?)

You are white, of course you don’t know about racism, because you don’t receive it.

Crimson Dynamo 03-06-2020 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10854649)
Trump is a symptom of the problem in the USA, not the cause. Trump blusters all the time, that's who he is. You won't hear any allies directly criticize him as it serves zero purpose. Let's not forget that there was a black president in charge of the USA for 8 years where nothing changed, he had a vice president during that time named Biden who also did nothing. This isn't about 1 man, the police force or any other hate figure. It's an endemic problem that will take generations to resolve, so while the protesters are doing a good job of bringing attention to the problems, don't expect anything to change for a long, long, long time.

But there has been so much change tho bots, do you think that they could have had a black president in the 80s or 90s?

The problem is the people who are protesting have not been alive long enough to see the huge strides that have been made

Crimson Dynamo 03-06-2020 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Samm (Post 10854653)
You are white, of course you don’t know about racism, because you don’t receive it.

do you think that say gypsies dont receive racism?

Niamh. 03-06-2020 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10854657)
do you think that say gypsies dont receive racism?

You're not a gypsy though LT, as far as I'm aware


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