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Cherie 11-06-2020 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10860640)

who stereotypically had "speak to the manager" haircuts — acting entitled in public. Now, it's used as an identifier for any white woman who acts inappropriately, rudely, or in an entitled fashion.

No one has those now unless they have been illegally having the mobile hairdresser round :hee:

arista 11-06-2020 09:34 AM

https://talentrecap.com/wp-content/u...ian-Cooper.png


Yes the USA Karen
in Central Park in NYC
in a Panic as a Black man is near her.


She was meant to have her dog on a lead.


Racist thoughts in her head

Oliver_W 11-06-2020 09:37 AM

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user104658 11-06-2020 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10860651)
who stereotypically had "speak to the manager" haircuts — acting entitled in public. Now, it's used as an identifier for any white woman who acts inappropriately, rudely, or in an entitled fashion.

No one has those now unless they have been illegally having the mobile hairdresser round :hee:

It loosely just refers to entitled white women who like to complain about everything (and feel like they should be taken more seriously than others) but the nuances get complicated.

For example, there are plenty of male Karens. And more than a few female Gammons.

user104658 11-06-2020 09:40 AM

Funnily enough, one of the biggest Karens I've ever known was an Indian man. A rather wealthy one, so I guess wealth privilege comes into it to some extent.

Liam- 11-06-2020 09:46 AM

Husband and wife Karen duos are the best


Oliver_W 11-06-2020 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10860659)
Funnily enough, one of the biggest Karens I've ever known was an Indian man. A rather wealthy one, so I guess wealth privilege comes into it to some extent.

Yeah it's more of an undue sense of entitlement rather than a race or gender thing, but "Karen" just encapsulates it so well :laugh:

Cherie 11-06-2020 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10860665)
Husband and wife Karen duos are the best


:joker:

you been drinking ha...is that you TiBB

Kizzy 11-06-2020 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10860659)
Funnily enough, one of the biggest Karens I've ever known was an Indian man. A rather wealthy one, so I guess wealth privilege comes into it to some extent.

He was just a twat... He wasn't a Karen.

Look at you insisting that men be karens, lol

Braden 11-06-2020 10:12 AM

I haven't seen many, tbh.

I guess they're used to stereotype right-leaning people, just like the word 'snowflake' is used to stereotype the left?

user104658 11-06-2020 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10860674)
He was just a twat... He wasn't a Karen.

Look at you insisting that men be karens, lol

I'm all for equality Kizzy, you know fine well we have ample chunks of femme gammon right here on TiBB :hee:. Stop being such a Karen.

Livia 11-06-2020 10:32 AM

So there IS a section of people that it's okay to stereotype!

I'm sure the white people worrying about whether blackface can ever be funny are the same ones endorsing this as 'fine'.

Kizzy 11-06-2020 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10860690)
I'm all for equality Kizzy, you know fine well we have ample chunks of femme gammon right here on TiBB :hee:. Stop being such a Karen.

I was waiting for that, because I suggested an Asian man can't be a karen, I'm a Karen? Lol.

I don't believe women can be gammon either, only socialisation produces these types, it's a whole life process imo. For instance a little boy is influenced a certain way, by his parents he seeks out peers with similar views as friends, joins the military. Reads and watches certain papers and media, avid sports fan and drinker. And they are white.

For me the female equivalent of gammon is karen.


Love your sig btw :)

Kizzy 11-06-2020 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10860699)
So there IS a section of people that it's okay to stereotype!

I'm sure the white people worrying about whether blackface can ever be funny are the same ones endorsing this as 'fine'.

Not sure how you equate a stereotype with blackface.. you have a go, I can't.

Livia 11-06-2020 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10860719)
Not sure how you equate a stereotype with blackface.. you have a go, I can't.

Isn't blackface the epitome of a stereotype? Isn't that what blackface IS?

user104658 11-06-2020 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10860717)
I was waiting for that, because I suggested an Asian man can't be a karen, I'm a Karen? Lol.

Maybe he was a Karim :think:

Livia 11-06-2020 10:59 AM

Feel a bit sorry for any normal person called Karen, actually. Because she isn't normal.

Cherie 11-06-2020 11:01 AM

It would be nice if stereotypes could be erased across the board, but that ain't going to happen when white people are quite happy to stereotype other white people while moaning about white people stereotyping people of other races, personally I don't get it, but I live by my own rules, not some rules set by twitter et al

Oliver_W 11-06-2020 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10860729)
It would be nice if stereotypes could be erased across the board, but that ain't going to happen when white people are quite happy to stereotype other white people while moaning about white people stereotyping people of other races, personally I don't get it, but I live by my own rules, not some rules set by the twitter et al

We live in clown world, just mock and deride every aspect of it :dance:

user104658 11-06-2020 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10860726)
Feel a bit sorry for any normal person called Karen, actually. Because she isn't normal.

My wife's aunt is called Karen but I'm going to be honest and say that the urban dictionary definition of Karen could just be a photo of her.

user104658 11-06-2020 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10860731)
We live in clown world

I think that's probably always been the case, but I do low-key love the fact that since about 2018 it's just descended into being generally accepted. Like the world is utterly absurd and pointless and everyone knows it now.

arista 11-06-2020 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10860726)
Feel a bit sorry for any normal person called Karen, actually. Because she isn't normal.


Sure they can handle it.

Oliver_W 11-06-2020 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10860739)
I think that's probably always been the case, but I do low-key love the fact that since about 2018 it's just descended into being generally accepted. Like the world is utterly absurd and pointless and everyone knows it now.

I'm soo glad I gave up caring about politics (apart from "broad strokes" and obvious stuff). The only things I ever fully cared about were the environment and animals, everything else ...

The world is a better place when you just laugh at it :)

Kizzy 11-06-2020 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10860723)
Isn't blackface the epitome of a stereotype? Isn't that what blackface IS?

There is a gulf of difference, one is playing a perceived stereotype, which is more of a caricature imo

And the other is actually being a stereotypical personality.

Jessica. 11-06-2020 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10860726)
Feel a bit sorry for any normal person called Karen, actually. Because she isn't normal.

I've seen comments by people called Karen saying that they aren't offended by the memes and that they understand that it's nothing against them, it's just a common name that happened to become part of the joke.


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