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The Slim Reaper 16-07-2020 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10880538)
I'm kind of shouted down in here when I refer to the legality of anything. And yet it's still regularly used as a stick to beat me in this playground, isn't it.

I've neither shouted you down nor tried to beat you with a stick. You made a statement, and I asked a fair question.

user104658 16-07-2020 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10880567)
...it’s more that if we in the U.K. say the same of citizens of other countries, that they should be returned etc...we should practice what we preach...

Every country in the world that has a prisoner with a British parent should strip their citizenship and put them on a plane to London. The UK has set the precedent so can't really complain (but would, of course, oh so loudly).

arista 16-07-2020 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10880540)
...surely it’s that she can return to the U.K. to plead her case, Arista...the thread title isn’t completely accurate...


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Nicky91 16-07-2020 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10880560)
You can have her, you know....

she needs to live somewhere, you know

one more into our country doesn't make a huge difference too

we'll have moronic clown Wilders moaning but no one else in parliament listens to that racist idiot anyway so

Mitchell 16-07-2020 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10880573)
Every country in the world that has a prisoner with a British parent should strip their citizenship and put them on a plane to London. The UK has set the precedent so can't really complain (but would, of course, oh so loudly).

.

Ammi 16-07-2020 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10880576)

...yeah, to challenge the decision...so your title is not complete, Arista...and therefore not entirely accurate...

user104658 16-07-2020 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10880580)
...yeah, to challenge the decision...so your title is not complete, Arista...and therefore not entirely accurate...

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thesheriff443 16-07-2020 11:26 AM

She needs a british bullet in the back of her head.

A hate filled breeding machine, who probably killed her kids.

Niamh. 16-07-2020 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10880567)
...it’s more that if we in the U.K. say the same of citizens of other countries, that they should be returned etc...we should practice what we preach...

Yep for sure. We had to take back an Irish "ISIS Bride" last year.

Livia 16-07-2020 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10880564)
No one offered a valid argument for why someone born and radicalised in the UK is not the UK's responsibility at the time and no one is now. More importantly; no one even bothered to try. "We don't want her because she's dangerous and that's that" was the extent of the counter-argument. Never any response to why Bangladesh should want her either, other than "that's not our problem". It's not really a debate, is it.



Bangladesh never had any legal responsibility to take her and I'm not sure why that was ever a "plan".

It's my opinion that neither the US nor Europe should be forced to take back ISIS traitors. However, I do think it's our problem and we should go much further is finding a solution but I don't think that solution should be returning them to the country they betrayed in the first place. I really don't know what the answer is, it's kind of uncharted territory. But my instinct is that they should not return.

Ammi 16-07-2020 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10880584)
Yep for sure. We had to take back an Irish "ISIS Bride" last year.

...I don’t think any of us are entirely comfortable with that idea which is exactly why we can’t expect other countries to be okay with it... life is not one our own terms’, that’s not what it is as much as we may like it to be..

bots 16-07-2020 11:30 AM

i don't know the legal technicalities, so I can't comment really. Rule number 1 is to take the emotion out of it and follow the law

The Slim Reaper 16-07-2020 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10880583)
She needs a british bullet in the back of her head.

A hate filled breeding machine, who probably killed her kids.

You sure showed her what it means to hate.

caprimint 16-07-2020 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10880587)
Bangladesh never had any legal responsibility to take her and I'm not sure why that was ever a "plan".

It's my opinion that neither the US nor Europe should be forced to take back ISIS traitors. However, I do think it's our problem and we should go much further is finding a solution but I don't think that solution should be returning them to the country they betrayed in the first place. I really don't know what the answer is, it's kind of uncharted territory. But my instinct is that they should not return.

Yeah I agree with this

Nicky91 16-07-2020 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10880583)
She needs a british bullet in the back of her head.

A hate filled breeding machine, who probably killed her kids.

her elder two kids no information there


however her youngest child, who was born in refugee camp, cause of death was lung infection (back in March last year)

Livia 16-07-2020 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10880573)
Every country in the world that has a prisoner with a British parent should strip their citizenship and put them on a plane to London. The UK has set the precedent so can't really complain (but would, of course, oh so loudly).

That's not quite the same thing... is it. We're talking about a woman who left this country voluntarily, to join an organisation intent on destroying us.

Ammi 16-07-2020 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10880591)
i don't know the legal technicalities, so I can't comment really. Rule number 1 is to take the emotion out of it and follow the law

..and the law says that she’s entitled to plead her case...

thesheriff443 16-07-2020 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10880592)
You sure showed her what it means to hate.

I don’t hate her it’s the decent thing to do to her and many others.

Ammi 16-07-2020 11:34 AM

...what is thought that ISIS would have done to us is what we should do to her...?...that would make us all of the same level of those we condemn as ‘evil’...

thesheriff443 16-07-2020 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10880598)
...what is thought that ISIS would have done to us is what we should do to her...?...that would make us all of the same level of those we condemn as ‘evil’...

You reap what you sow ammi.

A dangerous dog gets put to sleep.

Ammi 16-07-2020 11:38 AM

...she is reaping what she’s sowed, which is why shes trying to plead a case right now...

The Slim Reaper 16-07-2020 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10880599)
You reap what you sow ammi.

A dangerous dog gets put to sleep.

I canine believe it, you should always let sleeping dogs lie.

Ammi 16-07-2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10880602)
I canine believe it, you should always let sleeping dogs lie.

...rule the place with jokes...(..you looney..:laugh:..)...

user104658 16-07-2020 11:40 AM

IMO an attempt should always be made to deprogramme and rehabilitate, if only because doing so successfully would send a much stronger message than anything else. What should happen to her is a totally separate debate though, really.

thesheriff443 16-07-2020 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10880601)
...she is reaping what she’s sowed, which is why shes trying to plead a case right now...

Yes let’s all give scum bags who wanted see our families killed a second chance and pat ourselves on the back for being so forgiving.


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