Yeah I never thought Corbyn himself was antisemetic, but he was arguably a bit too tolerant of it within his party.

I accept a lot of what you say there.
However I don't believe in those seeking power in the Country, that in their parties there should be racism, xenophobia or antisemitism.

It needs to be wiped out of those parties and organisations.

Now of course, in society generally, that's harder, however there shouldn't be any tolerance at all of it surfacing in Parties putting themselves forward for election.

I believe it should and has to be eradicated.
So there I have to not agree, it cannot be.

I never have believed Labour is riddled with it, and I've been on the receiving end of personal insults as to antisemitism to myself on here.

I learned last year, it's wrong to even just try to defend yourself on here as to those inferences/ accusations and even insults.

However, forward looking is now what's needed.
I always said Corbyn needed to do more.
I think that's recognised by Starmer actually.
I don't think he is Tory- lite myself
However that's for others to make their mind up on.

I never like party leaders anyway usually.
Only one I've time for at present is Nicola Sturgeon.

As for Johnson, well I can't disagree, it's clear he holds worrying unsavoury thinking on race too.
Which slips out once he moves off this controlled script he's been given the last year or more.

I don't think he sees problems in his own party which are there too.
On many issues.

However, a full investigation into antisemitism and Labour has been done.
Which I was really glad to see take place.
I doubt it will and hope it doesn't find that the party is riddled with it.

However the fact it came about is really bad in itself.
It's recommendations,if any, must be implemented in full.
Labour at least though, then has to learn and ensure this is dealt with properly and yes, got rid of anywhere in the Party.

I'm 28, ever since I learned what it is, I've detested antisemitism.
I'll always stand against it through the rest of my life.
As I do any racism of any nature.

Labour never had any choice but to agree to the investigation, it wasn't a choice they had. When have the Tories refused an investigation like this?

And yeah, the rest is just whataboutery.

He enabled it. If he truly isn't an anti-Semite he had only to open his mouth say anything that wasn't a denial.

He did.

Sly dig? What was the sly dig? The fact that you didn't think there was much of a problem and prefer the old leader to the new one, or that I called the rest of your post whataboutery. Which it was.

Okay? Bye now...

Wow.... at last.

But you know, he hates Rangers and he hates the Jews....

He did years ago.

Is this the quote from the dossier? :laugh:

I want to thank you for that.
I haven't deflected.

I'm aware of the hurt and betrayal not only to Jewish MPs and members but also voters and those not Labour supporters in Jewish communities which was felt.
You, yourself too have.

The only thing to do with a wrong is put it right.
Not just attempting to by words but by all necessary action too.

Actually I feel that anti-semitism anywhere in UK politics, even moreso in Labour is that scandal I describe it as.
The decision to apologise and compensate shows already more of the action and healing needed to learn from this and rebuild trust.

Denial.. Apeasement is all this is. Again labour are not and never were antisemitic.
A change in spokesperson isn't going to change that. They settled is all which neither proves or disproves anything. A nice wedge makes it all better though it seems?

The whatsapp messages are swept under the carpet also, which kind of proved the point for the accusations of smears in the first instance. This is an interesting point from novara media.

By whataboutery are you referring to the opinions of the Jewish Corbyn supporters?...

The 'problem' was not addressed, they threw some money at it is all. That's the tory way, I expected better from Labour.

How do you end a thread about defamation?. ..By defaming someone of course!

[Rapper Wiley MBE ,
dropped by management over Anti-Semitic posts]

[In one tweet he said:
"I don't care about Hitler, I care about black people",
and also compared the Jewish community to the Ku Klux Klan.]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cp...i036271084.jpg

[On Instagram, videos of himself were interspersed
with posts of screenshots - which have since
been deleted - including one at about midday on
Saturday suggesting Twitter has suspended
him from tweeting for a week.
He had already been given a 12-hour ban
on Friday night, but resumed tweeting on Saturday.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53536471

How odd, for me saying you don't care about Hitler you hare about black people does not mean you're antisemitic... it means the two issues are not comparable :/

Would be interesting to see the rest of the tweets in context.

Labour still hasn’t done anything in regards to their own members and MPs bullying and racially abusing their fellow colleagues and they never will. Empty token political gestures like this mean very little when you consider that.

And avoid being photographed in dubious surroundings.

Is there a point if reference here?

Well well. .. the very group that sought to destroy the party from within have got pound signs in their eyes now.
Love the media framing of this that their social media based collusion should be private!
Labour need to fight this, through the courts it's damned either way though if it does the whole sorry debacle will be out in full and all those he'll bent on preventing labour winning the previous 2 elections will be exposed...if they don't they face financial ruin.

This whole issue was designed to destroy Labour, antisemitism has been used as a weapon. I've stated before how I feel it's disgusting that the genuine cases they have had and the steps they took to tackle the issue have been ignored in favour of a media circus.

Let every little detail come out... Labour has to wash ALL its dirty linen in public now, trying to protect those who have been exposed is not an option .

Yeah, regardless of how much antisemitism really was in the party, there'll be "ambulance chasers" dredging up what they can in order to get money or clout.

Similar to how the #MeToo movement devolved to people moaning about a hand on the knee 40 years ago lol.

Corbyn and his cronies have a lot to answer for, that's what I take away from all of this.

I think stammer is doing a good job all round at the moment, and it's better that all the dirt is exposed now rather than interfering at the next election

Maybe if you're part of the community that was abused, ignored, stigmatised etc by Corbyn supporters, perhaps you wouldn't feel like it's an empty gesture.

Exactly. Labour deserve better instead of having their message twisted up in hate.

A lifelong anti-racist activist, who always fought for equality, was slandered and smeared by the elite so a lifelong racist could run the country for them, it’s shameful that people are still labelling an honest man with a completely false character.