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Crimson Dynamo 09-08-2020 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 10893722)
An article from 2018? A few things have happened since then LT.

yes more crime (stabbings) from some parts of london. the police need our support not hate and race cards for political gain or personal revenge

so we agree there

GiRTh 09-08-2020 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10893727)
yes more crime (stabbings) from some parts of london. the police need our support not hate and race cards for political gain or personal revenge

so we agree there

The bit in bold - You have no evidence, just like the police who stopped her.

What are we agreeing on? You have provided nothing to show stop and search works so there is no agreement there.

Crimson Dynamo 09-08-2020 06:05 PM

She said: "We were stopped because we're two black people driving in a nice car in Hackney."

total fabrications

she is getting Angry about her own lies:conf::shrug::conf:


I hope Sir Keir carpets her over this it undermines the hard crucial job police do

its inexcusable

GiRTh 09-08-2020 06:07 PM

Police smash car window of man on way home from TV interview about police racism

GiRTh 09-08-2020 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10893733)
She said: "We were stopped because we're two black people driving in a nice car in Hackney."

total fabrications

she is getting Angry about her own lies:conf::shrug::conf:


I hope Sir Keir carpets her over this it undermines the hard crucial job police do

its inexcusable

You focus entirely on her reaction and so do others but little comment on the fact the car was not registered in Yorkshire like the police claimed. Do you have a comment on that ?

Crimson Dynamo 09-08-2020 06:56 PM

"When stopped by a police officer the correct response is, "Good afternoon, Officer, how may I be of assistance?" What is so difficult about this? I think people being disrespectful to the police should receive an on-the-spot 1,000 fine."

top comment by the GBP

:clap1:

GiRTh 09-08-2020 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10893793)
"When stopped by a police officer the correct response is, "Good afternoon, Officer, how may I be of assistance?" What is so difficult about this? I think people being disrespectful to the police should receive an on-the-spot 1,000 fine."

top comment by the GBP

:clap1:

Got a source?

So what about the case I posted? Stopped twice in two weeks yet he has no criminal record. How many times is he to be stopped before he expresses unhappiness or is he supposed to keep smiling?. Did you watched the vid? The bit where he said 'THis cant keep happening to me' HE seemed quite distressed to me. Should he keep smiling every time she's stopped? And if he shows unhappiness at being stopped AGAIN should he just keep smiling? Tell him how he should behave because if that was me I'd want to know exactly what I as doing and why I was getting stopped so often

arista 09-08-2020 09:22 PM


arista 09-08-2020 09:49 PM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cp...3_guardian.jpg

joeysteele 10-08-2020 07:49 AM

I think she has a point.
She raised valid points with the Officer.

The Police do seem to have been ' selective' here and unjustified.

As an MP she will have validly supported information of this happening when it shouldn't to others, particularly constituents.

This sounds an odd one from the Police side of things sadly.
Of course the Police have a job to do but it has to be done right and not with any prejudicial undertones to the job.

Perhaps in this case, for the Police, it's unfortunate for them that they ended up making this higher profile, by stopping an MP.

It's also worrying incorrect details can be entered anywhere too, as to car registration and people too.

I'm pleased she filmed this actually.

bots 10-08-2020 08:13 AM

i'm not sure how it can be considered racial profiling if the driver is white

UserSince2005 10-08-2020 08:24 AM

Cry baby, she needs to be removed from her post.

UserSince2005 10-08-2020 08:29 AM

Shes a trouble raiser.

joeysteele 10-08-2020 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 10893966)
Cry baby, she needs to be removed from her post.

She doesn't have a post, so what post should she be removed from?
She's just an MP.
So only the constituents can try to remove her from that.

Which they won't because she's a popular MP.

She left her post in April.

You're a bit behind the times I'm afraid there.

Oliver_W 10-08-2020 09:01 AM

So she asked a question, and then kept rabbiting on while he was trying to answer? :joker:

At least the police are actually doing their job, maybe if she let them get on with it they'd have more time to catch criminals instead of listening to some Karen MP

Oliver_W 10-08-2020 09:02 AM

Hang on, the car's registered in North Yorkshire? Aren't parts of the North on local lockdown?

Cherie 10-08-2020 09:03 AM

The reg was input incorrectly, human error it happens

As an aside my son has been stopped and searched twice at a train station, probably due to him looking dodgy and carrying a backpack :fist:

Liam- 10-08-2020 10:58 AM

And like clockwork, the level of abuse, a lot of it racist, she’s receiving online for pointing out racial profiling is appalling

bots 10-08-2020 11:19 AM

the unfortunate thing is that profiling is an absolute necessity if we want to keep a grip on crime and terrorism. It is very unpleasant if anyone is innocent and falls foul of that profiling, but I would rather it was there and that my family is kept safe than if crime were allowed to persist because it wasn't deemed politically correct.

I've deliberately called it profiling rather than racial profiling, because profiling as a mechanism is much more sophisticated than it is being made out to be.

Oliver_W 10-08-2020 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10894006)
And like clockwork, the level of abuse, a lot of it racist, she’s receiving online for pointing out racial profiling is appalling

Any examples?

Oliver_W 10-08-2020 11:34 AM

Also how is it "pointjng out institutional racism" when a white man was driving the car?

Ammi 10-08-2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10894025)
Any examples?

...they’re in the comments, Oliver...it’ll take you seconds to find them, I did...

Oliver_W 10-08-2020 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10894059)
...they’re in the comments, Oliver...it’ll take you seconds to find them, I did...

I looked in the #sackdawnbutler and it was mostly calling her a "race baiter" which she arguably was doing :shrug: some were calling her an idiot. I didn't see any actual racism.

Liam- 10-08-2020 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10894040)
Also how is it "pointjng out institutional racism" when a white man was driving the car?

He wasn’t white

Liam- 10-08-2020 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10894059)
...they’re in the comments, Oliver...it’ll take you seconds to find them, I did...

Don’t bother, he’ll always have an excuse for why racism isn’t actually racism


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