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Cherie 08-09-2020 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10909429)
I remember when i was married and a made a Freudian slip. I was having
dinner with my then Mother-in-Law, and I wanted to say, "Could you please
pass the wine?" "But instead I said, "You awful witch, you have completely
ruined my life."

D:

:joker:

Liam- 08-09-2020 08:54 AM

Not misogynistic at all

Cherie 08-09-2020 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10909436)
Aren't mother-in-law jokes mainly just based on the idea that they have this rose tinted view of their own child in contrast to their partner and that makes them overbearing and impossible to please etc. It can apply just as much to wives as husbands I'd have thought (as in women can also find their mother-in-law very frustrating)

yes but why not the Father in law :shrug: he could equally think no one is good enough for his Princess

user104658 08-09-2020 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10909442)
Not misogynistic at all

It plays into the trope that all mother-in-laws are middle-aged battleaxes who you would obviously want to avoid. Of course it's misogynistic. It could probably be argued that it's very "low level" misogyny but :shrug: the subtle messages are the ones that let the larger ones flourish.

user104658 08-09-2020 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10909443)
yes but why not the Father in law :shrug: he could equally think no one is good enough for his Princess

Indeed; if the aim of the joke is what's been said, why not "your in-laws are around the corner".

Niamh. 08-09-2020 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10909438)
Yeah I would have thought it stereotyped overbearing mothers as opposed to "women".

Mothers are always women though so it is about women

user104658 08-09-2020 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10909448)
Mothers are always women though

Don't open THAT can of worms Niamh! :laugh:

Ammi 08-09-2020 09:05 AM

...it could have been ‘father in law’ just easily, but it wasn’t...because there hasn’t really been father in law ‘humour’ in the same way...as in, inferring father in laws are bit monstrous and stereotyping them in such a negative way...it’s not providing any ‘equal, why ‘in law humour at all’...and it’s definitely not progressing in any way by using a ‘humour’ that has become out dated for a reason...

Crimson Dynamo 08-09-2020 09:07 AM

they should have used "Chugger" instead as that would put the fear of God in most

Liam- 08-09-2020 09:08 AM

Nah, sorry, ‘everyone hates/is scared of their mother-in-law’ is not demeaning an entire gender

Ammi 08-09-2020 09:10 AM

...I mean, one of the very things that ‘father in law humour’ hasn’t been a thing is what should have told them that this was an awful regression...

Ammi 08-09-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10909453)
Nah, sorry, ‘everyone hates/is scared of their mother-in-law’ is not demeaning an entire gender

...it’s stereotyping a ‘role’ as it were, in a negative way because it’s equating it to an horrendous virus...

user104658 08-09-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10909453)
Nah, sorry, ‘everyone hates/is scared of their mother-in-law’ is not demeaning an entire gender

Where did you get the impression that targetting the entire gender is a prerequisite of something being misogyny? One of the targetted characteristics of the joke is that it is the female in-law, specifically, thus it's gender-targetted, thus it's misogynistic. Just because it only applies to "mother in laws" and not women in general doesn't make it not misogyny. That's like the claim that Tommy Robinson isn't racist because he has black mates and only says bad things about Muslims. Or saying that someone "isn't homophobic" because they only dislike effeminate gay men and are fine with the blokey ones.

Cherie 08-09-2020 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10909453)
Nah, sorry, ‘everyone hates/is scared of their mother-in-law’ is not demeaning an entire gender

Most women become mother in laws ...:idc:

to say everyone hates them is just ridiculous

Marsh. 08-09-2020 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10909448)
Mothers are always women though so it is about women

But not all women are mothers. :smug:

And not all mothers are monstrous in-laws.

Ammi 08-09-2020 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10909459)
But not all women are mothers. :smug:

And not all mothers are monstrous in-laws.

....some day you might be a Marsh in-law...

Niamh. 08-09-2020 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10909445)
It plays into the trope that all mother-in-laws are middle-aged battleaxes who you would obviously want to avoid. Of course it's misogynistic. It could probably be argued that it's very "low level" misogyny but :shrug: the subtle messages are the ones that let the larger ones flourish.

Yeah exactly, it's another subtle message telling us women over a certain age are worthless, Karen, Mother in Law, cat lady etc etc

Niamh. 08-09-2020 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10909453)
Nah, sorry, ‘everyone hates/is scared of their mother-in-law’ is not demeaning an entire gender

Just the ones with children

Marsh. 08-09-2020 09:18 AM

I can see how some mother-in-law humour can be seen as sexist.

But this is literally "avoid people like you might avoid your mother-in-law". The number of people who actually do that is quite high. :hehe:

Marsh. 08-09-2020 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10909461)
....some day you might be a Marsh in-law...

And what a lovely day that will be for you. :smug:

Ammi 08-09-2020 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10909466)
And what a lovely day that will be for you. :smug:

...yeah, we can socially distance and put our masks on of we see you in the distance...:laugh:...

user104658 08-09-2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10909461)
....some day you might be a Marsh in-law...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10909466)
And what a lovely day that will be for you. :smug:

https://media1.tenor.com/images/fb3f...0d5b/tenor.gif

Niamh. 08-09-2020 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10909459)
But not all women are mothers. :smug:

And not all mothers are monstrous in-laws.

That sounds like one of those questions on an aptitude test :laugh:

If all mother-in-laws are women and some women are monstrous, which of these statements are true?

A - All Mother-in-Laws are monstrous
B - Some Mother-in-Laws are monstrous
C - No Monsters are mothers

Ammi 08-09-2020 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10909464)
I can see how some mother-in-law humour can be seen as sexist.

But this is literally "avoid people like you might avoid your mother-in-law". The number of people who actually do that is quite high. :hehe:

...so there are many who seem to not like those old immigrants...We could treat coronavirus like those asylum seekers, yeah...

Ammi 08-09-2020 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10909470)
That sounds like one of those questions on an aptitude test :laugh:

If all mother-in-laws are women and some women are monstrous, which of these statements are true?

A - All Mother-in-Laws are monstrous
B - Some Mother-in-Laws are monstrous
C - No Monsters are mothers

...is this a top answer or a pointless one...?...:laugh:...


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