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Mystic Mock 27-11-2020 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 10960172)
I mean they have been doing it for years but now people are only coming out the woodwork to complain? Their main issue should be it tastes nothing like Jerk Sauce

I feel like nowadays people want to add prejudice to every issue that they have, it's deeply irritating and it takes people's attention away from real prejudice incidents.

Personally whether the Sauce really tastes like Jerk Sauce or not, McDonald's are just adding a meal to their menu that has Jamaican flavouring on it, imo that's much less offensive than not having it because they perceive it to be "beneath them."

arista 27-11-2020 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 10960537)
I feel like nowadays people want to add prejudice to every issue that they have, it's deeply irritating and it takes people's attention away from real prejudice incidents.

Personally whether the Sauce really tastes like Jerk Sauce or not, McDonald's are just adding a meal to their menu that has Jamaican flavouring on it, imo that's much less offensive than not having it because they perceive it to be "beneath them."



Yes the "Woke" gang.

Oliver_W 27-11-2020 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10960512)
Cultural appropriation is a more complex thing than just wearing clothes, it's about intent and more.

I could explain for hours, but you'd just reject it because you can't see beyond your own privilege, and I'm not wasting time on a fruitless endeavor.

You don't want to believe that it's a thing and you're perfectly entitled to that ignorance. You can try to misrepresent what it is all you want but it won't change that it's not what you think it is.

I've never really heard anyone try to actually explain what it is, they just say "profiting off cultures you weren't born into is bad."

Why is it bad? All cultures are there for the taking, so if someone wants to shine a lot on them, why shouldn't they?

Crimson Dynamo 27-11-2020 01:09 PM

current top comment:

fhbj2000, Houston, United States, 2 days ago

The perpetual victim society has found it's next fake outrage.

Dogeatdog 27-11-2020 01:15 PM

I’m sure McDonald’s have been making this burger for quite a while (or they had one which was very similar because I remember buying it a couple years back) and there was no issue like this surfacing so I’m a bit confused as to why this has come about now?

Oliver_W 27-11-2020 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogeatdog (Post 10960674)
I’m sure McDonald’s have been making this burger for quite a while (or they had one which was very similar because I remember buying it a couple years back) and there was no issue like this surfacing so I’m a bit confused as to why this has come about now?

Eh, people decide to get offended about Fawlty Towers or Gone with the Wind every few years, I guess it's the turn of Mcdonald's to smell the pissy diapers of righteous fury :laugh:

People could go on about actual worthy causes when it come to McDon's, such as how they contribute to the destruction of rainforests, keep expanding the disgusting meat industry, or even the crappy wages they pay the staff ... but no, what they call a sauce is much worse, apparently.

The Slim Reaper 27-11-2020 01:41 PM

Wait until they start putting rasta hats with dreads in their happy meals.

Oliver_W 27-11-2020 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10960697)
Wait until they start putting rasta hats with dreads in their happy meals.

Those hats are nearly as comfy as ponchos, love em :dance:

Tom4784 27-11-2020 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10960658)
I've never really heard anyone try to actually explain what it is, they just say "profiting off cultures you weren't born into is bad."

Why is it bad? All cultures are there for the taking, so if someone wants to shine a lot on them, why shouldn't they?

It's not shining a light on them though, it's co-opting it for profit. You only have to look at history and various examples of colonialisation (and attempts to erase said culture after colonisation) to see why it would be seen as an issue. If you want to understand why cultural appropriation is a thing, you have to be willing to look at history.

Respectfully partaking in different cultures is good, co-opting it for profit while trying to take credit for it is not.

Oliver_W 27-11-2020 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10960726)
It's not shining a light on them though, it's co-opting it for profit. You only have to look at history and various examples of colonialisation (and attempts to erase said culture after colonisation) to see why it would be seen as an issue. If you want to understand why cultural appropriation is a thing, you have to be willing to look at history.

Respectfully partaking in different cultures is good, co-opting it for profit while trying to take credit for it is not.

Okay, that's a fair answer, and one won't call wrong or dismiss :)

But ... I don't happen to agree :joker: Someone living today who wants to create something from another culture has nothing to do with imperial wrongs in the past. We are ourselves, not our ancestors.

The imperial past of the Ottoman Empire shouldn't stop a Turkish singer from using Greek music, for example.

bots 27-11-2020 04:25 PM

i hope we all remember this when we prepare our next curry using our special dolmio sauce or are shaping a flat round piece of bread and put some cheese on the top

Tom4784 27-11-2020 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10960762)
Okay, that's a fair answer, and one won't call wrong or dismiss :)

But ... I don't happen to agree :joker: Someone living today who wants to create something from another culture has nothing to do with imperial wrongs in the past. We are ourselves, not our ancestors.

The imperial past of the Ottoman Empire shouldn't stop a Turkish singer from using Greek music, for example.

You're choosing not to see the issue and instead muddying the issue by drawing on examples that simply aren't appropriation to lessen it's impact.

Appreciation and appropriation are two different things.

Katy Perry doing that infamous performance of 'Unconditionally' at that awards show was appropriation of Japanese culture because it was hackneyed and stereotypical and basically derogatory. She also appropriated Egypt in the same era with Dark Horse. She took elements of dress and culture from these two places and profited from it by presenting it as painfully stereotypical as possible.

But ugh, I can't be bothered to waste my time with this. You won't ever get it because you don't want to.

Oliver_W 27-11-2020 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10960798)
You're choosing not to see the issue and instead muddying the issue by drawing on examples that simply aren't appropriation to lessen it's impact.

Appreciation and appropriation are two different things.

Katy Perry doing that infamous performance of 'Unconditionally' at that awards show was appropriation of Japanese culture because it was hackneyed and stereotypical and basically derogatory. She also appropriated Egypt in the same era with Dark Horse. She took elements of dress and culture from these two places and profited from it by presenting it as painfully stereotypical as possible.

But ugh, I can't be bothered to waste my time with this. You won't ever get it because you don't want to.

There's no impact to lessen, not a single Japanese or Egyptian person was harmed by the things you mention, and there's nothing stopping anyone else from drawing inspiration from those cultures. Just like there's nothing stopping them from mimicking American styles for profit.

Cherie 27-11-2020 05:30 PM

Fast food has been appropriated from the US has it not?

I don’t get issue, are they claiming they invented jerk sauce...nope

Crimson Dynamo 27-11-2020 05:40 PM

i will be eating one at Christmas for sure

GiRTh 27-11-2020 06:06 PM

This isnt appropriation. You can find great Jerk Chicken burgers recipes online from many sources and many pubs will do a jerk chicken burger. This isnt an example but its always amusing to see this forums typical comments on issues like this.

A good recent example was when a bunch of female pop-stars starting wearing bindis on their heads as a fashion statement. Appropriation does exist.

Crimson Dynamo 27-11-2020 06:10 PM

adele's dreads?

user104658 27-11-2020 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10960845)
Fast food has been appropriated from the US has it not?

I don’t get issue, are they claiming they invented jerk sauce...nope

I'm pretty sure good ol' fish'n'chips (and northern staples like pies and pasties) are the OG "fast food".

Cherie 28-11-2020 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10960971)
I'm pretty sure good ol' fish'n'chips (and northern staples like pies and pasties) are the OG "fast food".

I was referring to Burger chains as the thread is about Maccy D’s, we could also say Black Friday is a cultural appropriation with its links to the Thanksgiving holiday

jet 28-11-2020 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 10960537)
I feel like nowadays people want to add prejudice to every issue that they have, it's deeply irritating and it takes people's attention away from real prejudice incidents.

A nice piece of common sense here.
People outside the minority extreme woke bubble can see how ridiculous it all is.

user104658 28-11-2020 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 10960884)

A good recent example was when a bunch of female pop-stars starting wearing bindis on their heads as a fashion statement. Appropriation does exist.

Genuine question; if this is appropriation, is non-celtic cultures wearing tartan as fashion also appropriation?

Crimson Dynamo 28-11-2020 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10961151)
Genuine question; if this is appropriation, is non-celtic cultures wearing tartan as fashion also appropriation?

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Denver 28-11-2020 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10961047)
I was referring to Burger chains as the thread is about Maccy D’s, we could also say Black Friday is a cultural appropriation with its links to the Thanksgiving holiday

The burger originated in Germany hence the name Hamburger

Cherie 28-11-2020 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 10961191)
The burger originated in Germany hence the name Hamburger

We didn’t get Maccy’s from Germany...I said chains

Denver 28-11-2020 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10961194)
We didn’t get Maccy’s from Germany...I said chains

It doesn't work if they stole their items from another country plus one of the UK's biggest fast food joints in Nandos which is all British

Well they didn't invented the sauce but they tweaked it a lot


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