Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 10985606)

I’m vegan.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10985614)

When presidents and monarchs are getting it you can be fairly sure it's safe. Also my wife's already had it so yeah I'll take it when it's offered :joker:.

Originally Posted by Ramsay (Post 10985605)

Agreed, theres cases of people not getting their smell and taste back and even people's lungs which are really messed up from it. I know a guy who got covid back last summer and he still can't taste food it's just texture to him and he's only mid 20s. These are actual known long term effects of covid

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10985617)

Honestly people will think this sounds minor but it's ****ing miserable. I have a sinus issue that means I lose my sense of taste every time I get a cold - it's actually one of the first symptoms (I eat something and it tastes like cardboard, and I know that I'll wake up the next day feeling crap)...

... it's awful. Eating at all becomes just a chore, my wife has to encourage me to have my dinner at all because I just can't be arsed sitting feeling like I'm chewing on air for half an hour. I get really frustrated after 2 or 3 days of it and the longest it ever lasts is about 5 days... I honestly can't imagine it for months on end.

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10985639)

Yeah I will, and I don't understand what the ANTI vaccinators want as a solution .

Originally Posted by Ramsay (Post 10985641)

They tend to want to just live with it with no lockdowns, pretty much sacrifice the old and people with underlying health conditions cus they want to go on the piss. 2 million+ deaths a year to this is nothing to them

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10985643)

And yet if everyone had that same attitude , I'm pretty sure the ANTI vaccinators would still be angry and moan about the situation.

Originally Posted by Ramsay (Post 10985646)

Exactly, was friends with a guy who is into every Conspiracy theory you could think of. Not friends with him anymore because he just insults everyone over it and I called him out on FB over him constantly posting about hydroxychloroquine. Anyway back in December 2019 when covid was first found he was posting how it's airborne and he was wearing a mask around town and he was shocked we weren't taking it serious.
Once lockdowns and that happened he suddenly was posting saying it was fake and how it's just the flu and blah blah. Just shows that they just want to look like they're smarter than everyone else and everyone is the sheep and are asleep except them.
Puts a bad name in actual Conspiracy theoriests who dive deep into JFK, aliens etc like harmless ****. Bring back flat earthers!!
Sorry for going off topic :laugh:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10985656)

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I ignore the conspiracy theories, if you go too far down the rabbit hole it can be hard to get out if you fill your head with all that.

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10985662)

Probably not. Unless I'm pinned down and forced it or if I really need to take it for some emergency.

I can survive without travelling to other countries, I've survived for 43 years so far on that front. A few more won't make a difference.

Originally Posted by Ramsay (Post 10985673)

What's your reason for not taking it when available?

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10985675)

I couldn't really give you a good reason, maybe lack of my trust, or maybe it could be paranoia? All I know is, I don't fancy sticking things into me without my full commitment to it. I got nothing against anybody who has it, I'm just not that bothered and that's about it. Who knows, maybe next week I'll think differently.

Originally Posted by Ramsay (Post 10985684)

Why don't you trust it? Were you vaccinated for other things?

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10985688)

I'm just happy to volunteer to go to the back of the queue. And when it comes to my turn, maybe I'll take it, I don't yet, I'll deal with that issue when it comes to it. Be thankful for volunteers like me letting you go first.

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10985675)

I couldn't really give you a good reason, maybe lack of my trust, or maybe it could be paranoia? All I know is, I don't fancy sticking things into me without my full commitment to it. I got nothing against anybody who has it, I'm just not that bothered and that's about it. Who knows, maybe next week I'll think differently.

Originally Posted by Ramsay (Post 10985604)

Vaccines tend to not have any long term effects past a few weeks anyway especially mRNA vaccines which once exposed have a really short half life. They don't stay in your body for long at all.
If you're getting the pfizer or mordena vaccine it's the mRNA vaccine you're not getting injected with the bad part of the virus like before to have your body develop immunity. Here's a couple links bleow that goes through how mRNA vaccines work.
This is an absolute revelation in the vaccine world and I can't wait to see what can come from this. I hate to bring up real life experience into it because anyone can lie on the internet but trust me I'm in my final year of Chemical and Pharmaceutical Science we have studied vaccines in detail. People here have me on FB so they can go look at my page if it needs confirmation :laugh:
It's completely understable to be wary because it may seem rushed also incase you are but really regular vaccines take so much longer to develop as a cost effective measure. It's cheaper to spread out the trials over 10 or so years. Covid tho is such a widespread problem that they're happy to throw the cash at it while having simultaneous trials going on plus most of the work was already done from SARS back in the early 2000s they just had to pick up from that. 60k+ or so people have taken it for the trials plus the millions that have already taken it in the general public, you are probably a normal healthy regular member of the population so you can sit back and see the effects of the rest of the population before it's your turn if you choose to take it.
When side effects of these vaccines which may come up which may be bad because no matter what you'll come across people who take a bad reaction to a foreign substance going into your body, it will be such a small case, a way small percentage than the number than actually die from covid.
No one wants to mess this up and be known as the company that ****ed up so they're all really careful with it. Sorry for the essay haha Im not a fully fledged doctor or scientist but Any more questions let me know if you want on here or PM, same goes for anyone here :)

https://www.cas.org/blog/covid-mrna-vaccine
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconv...rs-safe-150249

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10985566)

When you think of the stuff we put in our bodies via alcohol and junk food, will take my chances with this