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bots 19-01-2021 01:32 PM
Trump already pardoned people who were in jail or facing jail who didn't spill the beans on him. They knew they would be pardoned if they kept quiet. As abuse of power goes, it's right up there with the best of them

Mystic Mock 19-01-2021 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10987229)
...I think he might do, Donald Jnr wants that as well, doesn’t he...?...and I’m not lion...
:joker:

If the guy commits animal cruelty then I'd personally keep him locked up for life.

What Trump will do is more than likely the total opposite.:joker:

Mystic Mock 19-01-2021 01:44 PM
**** I accidentally voted for the bottom option when I meant to vote for the second option.:laugh:

Vicky. 19-01-2021 01:44 PM
Is it correct that being pardoned also means they cannot be put back in jail for the crime too? Like, this would not be something easily reversible like the cancellations of various laws..

bots 19-01-2021 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10987329)
Is it correct that being pardoned also means they cannot be put back in jail for the crime too? Like, this would not be something easily reversible like the cancellations of various laws..
i think once, the incoming president negated the pardons of the previous president, but the only reason he was able to do that was because all the relevant paperwork hadn't finished being submitted. So, that's why Trump is doing it the day before he leaves, as that gives time for the paperwork to be finalised :laugh:

Tom4784 19-01-2021 02:20 PM
He shouldn't, but I wouldn't count it out. Joe Exotic attempted to murder someone and his abuses against animals are numerous, nevermind the fact that he is a ****ty human being that groomed two men into marrying him, getting them addicted to drugs, and driving one of them to suicide.

Joe Exotic is exactly where he belongs.

Niamh. 19-01-2021 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10987338)
He shouldn't, but I wouldn't count it out. Joe Exotic attempted to murder someone and his abuses against animals are numerous, nevermind the fact that he is a ****ty human being that abused two men into marrying him, getting them addicted to drugs, and driving one of them to suicide.

Joe Exotic is exactly where he belongs.
I definitely agree he groomed those guys and was a ****ty person but I don't think Travis committed suicide? Not on purpose anyway, looked like that was accidental

The Slim Reaper 19-01-2021 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10987253)
It's a fundamental problem with democracy. At some point it relies on "good faith" and Trump is one who most certainly doesn't abide by anything good faith and never has.

Just to complete the picture a bit, both Clinton and Bush pardoned people serving their own interests rather than those of the country. Nothing like the nonsense pardons from Trump, but they set the precedent. In a similar way, at Trumps certification, several Dems objected to the vote of states at that time, with no basis for doing so. So while Trump has taken things to a new level of absurdity, the dems actually did these things first :laugh:
The levels involved here are completely different, and I'm not defending Clinton. For starters, just dangling pardons so folks wouldn't work with/give testimony to Mueller, versus Clinton appearing at his own impeachment. There is no precedent for how Trump has used pardons, taking either bush or Clinton into consideration.

Tom4784 19-01-2021 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10987339)
I definitely agree he groomed those guys and was a ****ty person but I don't think Travis committed suicide? Not on purpose anyway, looked like that was accidental
Oh, I thought it was suicide, he shot himself in the head, no? It's been a while since I watched it so I might be forgetting the details.

user104658 19-01-2021 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10987338)
Joe Exotic attempted to murder someone and his abuses against animals are numerous, nevermind the fact that he is a ****ty human being that abused two men into marrying him, getting them addicted to drugs, and driving one of them to suicide.
It made great telly though :flutter:

user104658 19-01-2021 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10987342)
Oh, I thought it was suicide, he shot himself in the head, no? It's been a while since I watched it so I might be forgetting the details.
He did shoot himself in the head, by accident... he had taken the clip out of the gun and thought that the type of gun he was waving about didn't hold a round in the chambre... but it does... and to demonstrate that it was not loaded... he shot himself in the face with it :facepalm:. I swear it was only sheer luck of the draw for the other guy that he didn't point it at him and click the trigger instead :umm2:

thesheriff443 19-01-2021 02:30 PM
Couldn’t care less

Niamh. 19-01-2021 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10987344)
He did shoot himself in the head, by accident... he had taken the clip out of the gun and thought that the type of gun he was waving about didn't hold a round in the chambre... but it does... and to demonstrate that it was not loaded... he shot himself in the face with it :facepalm:. I swear it was only sheer luck of the draw for the other guy that he didn't point it at him and click the trigger instead :umm2:
Yeah, he did have it pointed at the other guy first but he told him not to point it him and Travis said - look it's not loaded (or something similar) pointed it at himself and pulled the trigger

bots 19-01-2021 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10987344)
He did shoot himself in the head, by accident... he had taken the clip out of the gun and thought that the type of gun he was waving about didn't hold a round in the chambre... but it does... and to demonstrate that it was not loaded... he shot himself in the face with it :facepalm:. I swear it was only sheer luck of the draw for the other guy that he didn't point it at him and click the trigger instead :umm2:
i will never forget the look on the other guys face and his reactions to it happening

Tom4784 19-01-2021 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10987344)
He did shoot himself in the head, by accident... he had taken the clip out of the gun and thought that the type of gun he was waving about didn't hold a round in the chambre... but it does... and to demonstrate that it was not loaded... he shot himself in the face with it :facepalm:. I swear it was only sheer luck of the draw for the other guy that he didn't point it at him and click the trigger instead :umm2:
Oh, I remember the awful clip they showed of it, but can't remember the details. Even so, I'd still blame Joe Exotic for drugging him up to the point that he'd do something like that.

Tom4784 19-01-2021 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10987350)
i will never forget the look on the other guys face and his reactions to it happening
Yeah, it's what I remember clearly, probably why I thought it was suicide, couldn't remember what led up to it.

Niamh. 19-01-2021 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10987351)
Oh, I remember the awful clip they showed of it, but can't remember the details. Even so, I'd still blame Joe Exotic for drugging him up to the point that he'd do something like that.
Oh yeah, you could definitely say that. Do you remember his funeral as well, he was so disrespectful the way he spoke about him, with his mother sitting there as well.

user104658 19-01-2021 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10987351)
Oh, I remember the awful clip they showed of it, but can't remember the details. Even so, I'd still blame Joe Exotic for drugging him up to the point that he'd do something like that.
Yeah, he definitely did groom young guys with drugs & money... the other husband had one of the most compelling tales in the show I think. I think he's living a pretty normal life now, off drugs, remarried and teeth fixed. Unrecognizable from the poor soul in the documentary tbh. I think he appeared on the "Zoom Update" thing at the end of the show :think:

https://i.imgur.com/GdFK8YY.jpg

Tom4784 19-01-2021 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10987353)
Oh yeah, you could definitely say that. Do you remember his funeral as well, he was so disrespectful the way he spoke about him, with his mother sitting there as well.
I recall, he's such an odious human being, I don't know how people championed him so much when the series was huge. He was evil.

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10987355)
Yeah, he definitely did groom young guys with drugs & money... the other husband had one of the most compelling tales in the show I think. I think he's living a pretty normal life now, off drugs, remarried and teeth fixed. Unrecognizable from the poor soul in the documentary tbh. I think he appeared on the "Zoom Update" thing at the end of the show :think:

https://i.imgur.com/GdFK8YY.jpg
Yeah, I remember being happy that he bounced back from it all, I'm glad he was able to recover from Exotic's abuse.

arista 19-01-2021 03:06 PM
[Tiger King star Joe Exotic's camp has celebration planned
amid hopes President Donald Trump will pardon him
from 22-year sentence in murder-for-hire conviction]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ardon-him.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01...1011832590.jpg

hijaxers 19-01-2021 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10987248)
I would like to see him pardoned....:laugh:

Really cos i heard he shot 5 perfectly healthy tigers . I'd shoot the bastard myself nevermind a pardon. I hope he rots in jail

Niamh. 19-01-2021 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 10987432)
Really cos i heard he shot 5 perfectly healthy tigers . I'd shoot the bastard myself nevermind a pardon. I hope he rots in jail
Yep, to make way for cubs, that's where the money is letting people pet them, you can't let people pet adult tigers and they cost a lot to feed, scumbag

Crimson Dynamo 19-01-2021 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10987361)
[Tiger King star Joe Exotic's camp has celebration planned
amid hopes President Donald Trump will pardon him
from 22-year sentence in murder-for-hire conviction]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ardon-him.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01...1011832590.jpg
https://i2.wp.com/newzandar.com/wp-c...78%2C381&ssl=1

Amy Jade 19-01-2021 07:08 PM
I hope not. Besides the fact he tried to have Carole killed and clearly preyed upon young men his treatment of animals was absolutely disgraceful if you look into his reputation.

I don't understand anyone who celebrates him actually.

rusticgal 19-01-2021 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 10987432)
Really cos i heard he shot 5 perfectly healthy tigers . I'd shoot the bastard myself nevermind a pardon. I hope he rots in jail


He did...and you are right. Imagine the outrage though...


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