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Nicky91 25-01-2021 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10990823)
Nicky outing himself as a hater of electronics retailers is not how I expected this week to start.
PC = political correctness

user104658 25-01-2021 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10990840)
...just to add also...do parents want to make the decision themselves what is ‘harmful’ to their own child(ren)...or do they want that decision made by others...it surely gives more freedom to a parent and takes nothing away...
That's my thinking really, parents who don't want their kids to watch the content now have an easier route to them not viewing it, parents who are OK or would even like to watch these films with their kids still can, and (frankly) parents who don't care either way probably don't have kids Disney+ accounts set up with age restrictions and just have one unrestricted account that's shared. TBH the last one is probably the most likely scenario.

Ammi 25-01-2021 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10990848)
That's my thinking really, parents who don't want their kids to watch the content now have an easier route to them not viewing it, parents who are OK or would even like to watch these films with their kids still can, and (frankly) parents who don't care either way probably don't have kids Disney+ accounts set up with age restrictions and just have one unrestricted account that's shared. TBH the last one is probably the most likely scenario.
...and it’s also referring to originals as well, many children will watch the live remakes, I would think ....I was just thinking earlier actually about Sleeping Beauty and how dodgy ‘THE KISS’ is because that was definitely non consensual...

arista 25-01-2021 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10990818)
It takes a special kind of racist to look at an ape in a film full of talking animals, and immediately think of black people.



Yes Lever Louie alone.


BAN Black Lives Matter Political Group

user104658 25-01-2021 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10990850)
...and it’s also referring to originals as well, many children will watch the live remakes, I would think ....I was just thinking earlier actually about Sleeping Beauty and how dodgy ‘THE KISS’ is because that was definitely non consensual...
The whole concept of Sleeping Beauty is a mess, surely we want to teach kids that you fall in love with someone by getting to know them and liking their personality too, not that you just see a random inanimate person in a bed and think "Wow so hot" :joker:.

... ... ... not to mention that in the original story that it's based on, she is actually raped in her sleep by the prince (king) and goes through a full pregnancy and childbirth whilst still unconscious, and wakes up when one of her children dislodges some magical thingumawotsit from her hand that's keeping her asleep.

The original stories are always really messed up :umm2:.

Niamh. 25-01-2021 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10990869)
The whole concept of Sleeping Beauty is a mess, surely we want to teach kids that you fall in love with someone by getting to know them and liking their personality too, not that you just see a random inanimate person in a bed and think "Wow so hot" :joker:.

... ... ... not to mention that in the original story that it's based on, she is actually raped in her sleep by the prince (king) and goes through a full pregnancy and childbirth whilst still unconscious, and wakes up when one of her children dislodges some magical thingumawotsit from her hand that's keeping her asleep.

The original stories are always really messed up :umm2:.
Bloody hell, I hadn't heard that version, that's really disturbing. I remember having the Little Mermaid book when I was a kid and it was warped as well. The trade off for getting legs meant she was constantly in pain

Tom4784 25-01-2021 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10990782)
Hmm. I don't think there's any harm in kids watching these films but I do think it should be with an adult to provide context (not that all will). This isn't censorship though; they're essentially just changing them from "U" rated to "PG" and there's nothing wrong with that, at the end of the day it will be parent's decision whether or not to let kids watch them, which seems like the right route forward really.
Pretty much, it's basically just upping their age rating but it's not gonna stop people from misunderstanding what censorship is and crying that these films are being censored.

It's all quite understandable really, if these films had to be reclassified in today's world, they wouldn't be U rated. As usual, people are getting mad for no reason.

Tom4784 25-01-2021 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10990870)
Bloody hell, I hadn't heard that version, that's really disturbing. I remember having the Little Mermaid book when I was a kid and it was warped as well. The trade off for getting legs meant she was constantly in pain
And that it was all for nothing because the prince chose someone else and so she died, fairy tales are ****ed when you look at the original versions.

Niamh. 25-01-2021 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10990873)
And that it was all for nothing because the prince chose someone else and so she died, fairy tales are ****ed when you look at the original versions.
Was it something like she'd saved the prince from drowning but when he woke up there was another woman looking after him and he thought she was the one who saved him or something?

Tom4784 25-01-2021 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10990874)
Was it something like she'd saved the prince from drowning but when he woke up there was another woman looking after him and he thought she was the one who saved him or something?
Could be, I remember reading it as a kid and I thought I could remember it turning out that basically he fell in love with someone else. Maybe I remembered it wrong, either way, she ends up as foam, I think.

Oliver_W 25-01-2021 11:39 AM
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Niamh. 25-01-2021 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10990878)
Could be, I remember reading it as a kid and I thought I could remember it turning out that basically he fell in love with someone else. Maybe I remembered it wrong, either way, she ends up as foam, I think.
Yep :

Spoiler:

Andersen’s mermaid pays a big price for having legs

When Ariel becomes a human, she has legs and it’s a very exciting time for her.

What Disney left out is the penalty the mermaid has to pay for getting those legs in Andersen’s story.

Taking a step with her human legs is as the author put it, like “walking on knives,” according to Bustle.

There’s no happy ending in Andersen’s story
The Little Mermaid ends with the characters living happily ever after. But not in Andersen’s world.

Instead, the prince marries another woman whom he believes saved him from drowning.

Meanwhile, the mermaid has no way of telling him the truth because she has no voice. She’s given another shot when she’s told if she kills the prince, she will live.

In the end, the mermaid can’t bring herself to kill the man she loves and ends up back in the sea where she becomes sea foam or a “daughter of the air” where she remains in purgatory.https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertain...-mermaid.html/

Tom4784 25-01-2021 11:41 AM
Ah, so slightly less cruel than I remembered, I was sure I remembered him straight up rejecting her.

Oliver_W 25-01-2021 11:43 AM
Like in Cinderella, the Ugly Step Sisters chopped bits of their feet off to fit into the shoes , which were silk and silver rather than glass.

user104658 25-01-2021 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10990886)
Yep :

Spoiler:

Andersen’s mermaid pays a big price for having legs

When Ariel becomes a human, she has legs and it’s a very exciting time for her.

What Disney left out is the penalty the mermaid has to pay for getting those legs in Andersen’s story.

Taking a step with her human legs is as the author put it, like “walking on knives,” according to Bustle.

There’s no happy ending in Andersen’s story
The Little Mermaid ends with the characters living happily ever after. But not in Andersen’s world.

Instead, the prince marries another woman whom he believes saved him from drowning.

Meanwhile, the mermaid has no way of telling him the truth because she has no voice. She’s given another shot when she’s told if she kills the prince, she will live.

In the end, the mermaid can’t bring herself to kill the man she loves and ends up back in the sea where she becomes sea foam or a “daughter of the air” where she remains in purgatory.https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertain...-mermaid.html/
That poor unfortunate soul :worry:

user104658 25-01-2021 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10990890)
Like in Cinderella, the Ugly Step Sisters chopped bits of their feet off to fit into the shoes , which were silk and silver rather than glass.
Yeah I've heard that one too - they cut off their toes to try and get the shoes to fit or something D:

Tom4784 25-01-2021 12:02 PM
And then don't crows peck out their eyes for their 'wickedness?' So they end up blind with mangled feet.

That's the version I remember reading in school, at least, I think it was. Maybe I'm embellishing it, given how I misremembered the details of Little Mermaid.

Cherie 25-01-2021 12:14 PM
:joker: just shows how hardy we were has kids, it was like water off a ducks back

I just remember the pretty dresses in the Cinderella books

Ammi 25-01-2021 12:16 PM
...Cinderella, the not so ‘evil’ one sold her sisters to wealthy husbands...so human trafficking with her handsome Prince...?...shades of Jeffrey and Ghislaine...

Oliver_W 25-01-2021 12:37 PM
And the Wicked Witch from Snow White? She didn't topple off a cliff while trying to push a rock at Snowie... She survived right up to the wedding, which she was captured and forced to wear red hot iron shoes, and danced around until she dropped dead!

bots 25-01-2021 03:20 PM
i guess it takes peoples minds off covid for a minute

Marsh. 25-01-2021 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10990870)
Bloody hell, I hadn't heard that version, that's really disturbing. I remember having the Little Mermaid book when I was a kid and it was warped as well. The trade off for getting legs meant she was constantly in pain
:joker: Isn't the original Cinderella that the ugly sisters literally start cutting off toes in order to fit their feet into the glass slipper too?

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10990890)
Like in Cinderella, the Ugly Step Sisters chopped bits of their feet off to fit into the shoes , which were silk and silver rather than glass.
Or this. Yeah. :laugh:

Jessica. 25-01-2021 03:53 PM
I don't have a problem with them changing the age ratings of the films, there are plenty other films which don't have harmful stereotypes.

Crimson Dynamo 25-01-2021 04:05 PM
I mean SLeeping Beuty was 16 when she was being kissed whilst unconscious by a man and snow white was 14 and living with 7 men over 50

with one bathroom

Cherie 25-01-2021 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10991040)
I mean SLeeping Beuty was 16 when she was being kissed whilst unconscious by a man and snow white was 14 and living with 7 men over 50

with one bathroom
:laugh:

and Tom got regularly beaten over the head with a blunt instrument in Tom and Jerry


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