At least 350 trans people were killed in 2020 alone

Did you know 287 of those deaths were in South and Central America? There seems to be a huge problem over there in general with violence. Violence against women and sex workers especially is also very very high. I don't think outside of these countries there is an epidemic of trans people being murdered (which is good news)

Numbers are always very sketchy when it comes to trans deaths, it’s more important to look at violence against trans people as a whole which is a much more worrying figure

I don't think this is correct actually. Violence against trans people in South or Central America will probably have different factors/causes than violence against trans people in the UK or Europe in general. Like I said violence in general is a huge problem in South and Central American cities, a massive number of trans people were murdered there yes but also a massive number of women were murdered there and in both these groups of people a lot were sex workers, they're always more at risk of violence

I’m talking about Globally though not just C/S America

How many transpeople were murdered in the UK in 2020 for instance?

One person is too many

The point is that articles like this push an anti trans narrative when trans people are already suffering

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...land-and-wales

Good job the answer is Zero then

How do you know that?

It’s not just about death - violence also, and articles like this really push an anti-trans narrative

Just because it hasn’t been reported doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened, like I said numbers are very sketchy when it comes to these sorts of issues :shrug:

The same way you got your figure?

I'm not getting into an argument about the article, it's a stupid article whether it's true or not. I simply wanted to know about the pretty big statement Samm made that turns out is pretty disingenuous.

You don't think a murder would be reported?

Did you read the quote

So what are you saying with that quote? That you have no idea whether trans people are being murdered or not? Surely if transpeople were being murdered because they were trans people that would be a factor in the investigation and so would most definitely be reported as a trans murder?

The outrage about the branding change is fake and agenda driven but so are all of the bull**** agenda-driven "facts and stats" that trans rights people come out with and thgen refuse to back up "because its offensive that they should have to". It isn't offensive - be prepared to back your stats or don't post them. Or by all means post them if you want but don't be surprised if no one takes them seriously. If the stats are true you can source them. If you won't source them it's because either you can't find them, in which case they're probably made up/feelings based, OR you can't be bothered which is again fine but don't get huffy if people won't listen to your unsourced "just trust meh" claims.

I say just let the Potato family choose their own pronouns

they are bits of plastic

they are not real potato people

then why is everyone so outraged

Who is outraged? :laugh2:

I cant think of a single person who is save Arista? :shrug:

Actually a comment on the story itself, it's actually a good change for Mrs Potato head, previously she fell under the Mr Potato head branding, now both she and her husband fall under the Potato head brand, a step forward for women's rights :laugh:

:laugh:

Another non-story meant to get gullible and easily led gammon upset over issues of gender.

only on TiBB could an arbitrary marketing scheme turn into a thread where moderators tell us how non-persecuted trans people are

Where?