I learnt that it seems their relationships are frosty ,I just don't think we needed to know anything .Why say it (if it's been said) there was no need, it is just fanning the flames of the whole thing .I do know I don't speak for the whole public (no one does) but most people I have spoken too have really changed their minds about these two especially Harry and I don't think this sort of news helps their quest for privacy.

Pretty sure the media will run with drama regardless, so once again there's nothing to see here . Nothing has been revealed , and the private conversation is still private .

Meghan keeping her fans and critics alike up to date with the goss, now we can spend this whole week talking about her too :flutter:

Its not really something to joke about

families being torn apart


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From TV this morning,this is how 'some' people will roll now.


The successful legal action that Meghan took was over the disclosure of private communication between family members.

"Now they have disclosed what I am sure the other family members thought was a private conversation between family members.

"That is troubling for people to see."

The Duchess also appears to have accused Buckingham Palace of continuing
to leak “disparaging” stories about her, despite insisting they would work out
their differences privately.

It was claimed that Meghan, 39, had expressed frustration that despite the
litany of damaging revelations made before a television audience of millions,
no member of the Royal Family had yet contacted her to discuss them.


The disclosures are thought to have gone down badly at Buckingham Palace, where trust
in the couple had already been severely eroded.

A Palace source said pointedly that none of the royal households would be "giving a
running commentary on private conversations.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-fa...conversations/

So on your own admission we learned nothing from the fact they had a phone call that we didn't know before.
Which was my own point in my post.

So how did it change things..
We learned from Prince William last week he would be talking to Prince Harry.
We learn from this, the follow on he did.
We knew their relationship was frosty before,
plus as you yourself now state that things are still frosty.

So again, what's been revealed other than the most basic of an update of sorts.

You see some people I talk to WERE wondering had they talked or had the Palace been in touch.
None think anything wrong in learning they had talked with little to nothing changed.

You did too say, the public will see it your way.
You didn't say some.

I made a post, then had just 3 words quoted from it to get at me.
So sorry if I now retaliate by jumping in when others get away with things like '' THE PUBLIC will see it that way.

So we knew all was frosty before this call, we knew Prince William was going to talk to Prince Harry because Prince William told the media. he would be.

We now learn he has and that things are still frosty.

So what new have we learned , what new has even been revealed which could he used to fairly JUST attack the couple with now.

I say nothing at all from my view.

I myself doubt most of the public will actually think they've learned anything new either.
Or see it wrong to even just learn the 2 Princes have actually talked.

Absolutely spot on GoldHeart.

Prince William HIMSELF told the media he'd be talking to Prince Harry.
He didn't say it privately, he answered the wider media saying he would.

All that's been said here is they did talk.
With nothing changed it seems.

However it's only the couple's fault we learned they'd talked after Prince William told us they would be.
Talk about double standards.

yes we learned that a call would be made from the Prince

we did not learn and would never learn how the call went

and he would never get Lorraine off the telly to tell us it was unproductive





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Exactly
We already knew Harry's relationship with his dad & brother wasn't the best at the moment. But the key factor in all of this is that Harry is STILL in contact with his family.

And nothing new has been revealed, and since the Oprah interview the narrative was already "ohh Harry & Meghan have caused a rift and upset the royal family etc etc " .

No

These are not the actions of a happy, contented couple as they try to portray themselves, but of a bitter, jealous, destructive couple who are feeding off each other’s attention seeking vindictiveness. I think they are more to be pitied now really, as are those who insist everything they are doing/have done is just fine and dandy and somebody or something else is always to blame.

It’s something to continue the wah wah wahhh Meghan did this wahhh wahh Meghan did that. Being outraged by the stupidest things. All we got from this is... absolutely nothing

A betrayal of trust isn't nothing.

I have noticed that the defense of the pair is becoming more difficult and is disappearing quicker than snow off a dyke in April..

A phone call that people knew that was going to happen but the conversation wasn’t revealed? Continue to be be outraged by nothing

Then why say anything at all? "The talks were not productive and Meghan was unhappy no - one phoned her", isn't nothing, its stirring the flames.
How could any of the Royals trust them now that any future call made will not be revealed by them?

They said the interview would be the 'last word' and it was to draw a line under everything to get on with their lives.

Gayle reported that Harry had said conversations had began between him, his brother and father but hadn't led to any progress yet. Meghan hasn't spoken to any of the family.

Tibb, as always, full of their own twists and turns to the tale.

It's absolutely unbelievable Luke.
Lorraine and the news media and morning programming was full the next day of Prince William TELLING the World media he would be talking to Prince Harry

What's different now?
That we've ONLY learned they have and things stay much unchanged.

Plus why should they be happy with how their revelations are being handled.

Publicity handled or privately as the Queen stated it would be privately..
You still have to at least keep the involved parties informed and updated.

Which doesn't appear to have been put in place by the Monarch, or if she's said it should be, then the Royal institution set up, maybe hasn't enacted it properly or fully.

Again the involved parties need to be updated.

Outraged by nothing is a good line.
As you say to the intent to only blame the couple.
While ignoring the other facts.
Unbelievable.

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who knew Harry was so cross about being the spare :laugh:

And that Meghan was so jealous of Kate's position.

I think this is the crux of it all

Yes, that's the difference. William was asked and he said he would be talking to Harry. He hasn't revealed what the outcome was, that should be completely private. There can be no trust left. The Royals have dignity, H&M are behaving like trashy reality show losers.

Exactly. People are acting like she did a Kim Kardashian and leaked a private phone call conversation but she didn’t.

It also says a lot this being more outraged than Piers Morgan bullying Meghan and accusing her of lying about suicidal but people say freedom of speech to defend him but no one really says freedom of speech to what Meghan just said. Freedom is only used towards white people but a different story for poc.