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AnnieK 27-03-2021 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11024820)
Marsh suggested in this thread that he knows.

Can you answer Ammi's question, Marsh?
If you'd read any of the articles about it, it says why she was fired :shrug:

She works for the network, they didn't feel her behaviour was in keeping with their core values so they parted company. It's not cancel culture, its called work. If I did something at work that went against what my company stands for and they felt it was serious enough, they'd sack me. I wouldn't be able to claim cancel culture....no-one is indispensable

Shaun 27-03-2021 02:19 PM
a moment's silence for the gays who are waking up and just realising that she was always a **** x

Marsh. 27-03-2021 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11024824)
...yeah I just found something similar thank you, Marsh...this was the bit that I found which is more or less the same...some alleged comments are not being disclosed though ...

‘Osbourne apologized on Twitter, but the show suspended production starting March 15 as it announced an internal investigation. Things got worse for Osbourne from there. After Robinson Peete accused Osbourne of having a hand in her own dismissal from The Talk, alleging Osbourne had referred to her as "too ghetto," Remini entered the conversation. The actress and activist, during an interview with journalist Yashar Ali, claimed that Osbourne had made racist comments about former colleague (and Chinese American woman) Julie Chen, homophobic remarks about The Talk creator and then-moderator Sara Gilbert and made anti-Italian slurs toward Remini herself.’
Yep.
The fact she dropped herself in it by repeating the slur. :skull: Screw loose.

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On Tuesday, journalist Yashar Ali published a report alleging that Osbourne, 68, referred to her former The Talk co-host Julie Chen as "wonton" and "slanty eyes," citing multiple unnamed sources, including another former The Talk co-host, Leah Remini.

Osbourne called the claims "crap, all crap," in an interview first given to Daily Mail Wednesday, (PEOPLE confirmed the veracity of the quotes, and Osbourne shared a similar statement), but repeated the racist language, adding "Everyone's got an opinion or a story like the wonton story. It's like f--- off with your f------ wonton story. F--- off!"

Ali's Tuesday report further claimed that Osbourne referred to former co-host and executive producer Sara Gilbert, who is lesbian, as "p---- licker" and "fish eater."
https://people.com/tv/sharon-osbourn...he-talk-mount/

Marsh. 27-03-2021 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11024827)
If you'd read any of the articles about it, it says why she was fired :shrug:
No, no, Alf reads the thread title and bugger all else and it's everyone else's fault. :nono:

Ammi 27-03-2021 02:28 PM
..so what’s more or less being said ...(...pending an investigation etc..)...is that this is consistent and persistent behaviour...she hasn’t been ‘cancelled’ as such but there are several allegations and they need to be looked into...I wonder why they haven’t before if this is persistent behaviour from her...

Ammi 27-03-2021 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11024830)
Yep.
The fact she dropped herself in it by repeating the slur. :skull: Screw loose.



https://people.com/tv/sharon-osbourn...he-talk-mount/
...wow at that article section you posted...

Marsh. 27-03-2021 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11024842)
..so what’s more or less being said ...(...pending an investigation etc..)...is that this is consistent and persistent behaviour...she hasn’t been ‘cancelled’ as such but there are several allegations and they need to be looked into...I wonder why they haven’t before if this is persistent behaviour from her...
Yep. Too little too late really regarding her behaviour.

Not that any of it is news, she's always been like this ever since she entered public view.

DouglasS 27-03-2021 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11024821)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/...after-23805204

But let people pretend it was for defending Piers Morgan's honour. :laugh:
What did she say though? You claimed to know and said it was caught on tape, can we see please. It’s not just me and Alf wondering, ammi is also.

bots 27-03-2021 02:34 PM
there was a "discussion" that took place on air between osborne and another presenter, probably similar to the piers event. It created controversy forcing cbs to take the program off air for a while. There will always be repercussions from something like that happening, that directly affects the networks revenue .

Some networks want osborne to be edgy, others don't. Know your employer is the obvious advice

DouglasS 27-03-2021 02:34 PM
So these articles about Sharon are miraculously true without evidence, but articles written on people like Meghan are not true and false...Or are just “speculation” and “false rumours” :laugh:

At least not actively be hypocritical and if you are.. own it

Nicky91 27-03-2021 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11024827)
If you'd read any of the articles about it, it says why she was fired :shrug:

She works for the network, they didn't feel her behaviour was in keeping with their core values so they parted company. It's not cancel culture, its called work. If I did something at work that went against what my company stands for and they felt it was serious enough, they'd sack me. I wouldn't be able to claim cancel culture....no-one is indispensable
'cancel culture' i hear about more and more these days


spot on Annie, it is a professional talk show, also i never really seen this particular one, i more prefer The View (cuz of Whoopi whom i love) and i also prefer Kelly Clarkson Show cuz of very diverse and interesting guests + kellyoke fab music/band


as for my opinion on Sharon Osbourne herself, i've always liked her, find her quite funny (also on x factor)

Marsh. 27-03-2021 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 11024849)
So these articles about Sharon are miraculously true without evidence, but articles written on people like Meghan are not true and false...Or are just “speculation” and “false rumours” :laugh:

At least not actively be hypocritical and if you are.. own it
It's not about believing anything, it's about what has led to her stepping down.

Not Piers Morgan.... but her colleagues coming forward with complaints about her behaviour, including racist and homophobic language.

It's fairly simple.

AnnieK 27-03-2021 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 11024849)
So these articles about Sharon are miraculously true without evidence, but articles written on people like Meghan are not true and false...Or are just “speculation” and “false rumours” :laugh:

At least not actively be hypocritical and if you are.. own it
There must be some truth for them to part company with her. I assume the evidence is first party from those involved and the network felt compelled to act.

rusticgal 27-03-2021 02:39 PM
So from what I can see...Sharon Osborne defends PM for having 'an opinion'....the opinion being he doesnt believe Meghan regarding her mental health... the other presenter deems this opinion as 'racist' and starts to get upset and Sharon tells her 'not to cry' and suddenly its all about Racism...:shrug:

Have I missed something :shrug:

Liam- 27-03-2021 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11024857)
So from what I can see...Sharon Osborne defends PM for having 'an opinion'....the opinion being he doesnt believe Meghan regarding her mental health... the other presenter deems this opinion as 'racist' and starts to get upset and Sharon tells her 'not to cry' and suddenly its all about Racism...:shrug:

Have I missed something :shrug:
Yes, the entire point, clearly

AnnieK 27-03-2021 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11024857)
So from what I can see...Sharon Osborne defends PM for having 'an opinion'....the opinion being he doesnt believe Meghan regarding her mental health... the other presenter deems this opinion as 'racist' and starts to get upset and Sharon tells her 'not to cry' and suddenly its all about Racism...:shrug:

Have I missed something :shrug:
Yes :laugh:

It's about other comments she has made, not in relation to that particular conversation.

Marsh. 27-03-2021 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11024857)
Have I missed something :shrug:
Yes.

DouglasS 27-03-2021 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11024855)
It's not about believing anything, it's about what has led to her stepping down.

Not Piers Morgan.... but her colleagues coming forward with complaints about her behaviour, including racist and homophobic language.

It's fairly simple.
Oh okay so it’s not been caught on tape, so you admit to making your opinion seem like fact to seem more legitimate?

Those complaints are not proven, and going by that video tape that colleague had no idea what she was talking about, the conversation was about mental health and she turned it into a debate it is not about... she seems to be a perpetual victim of everything, and so her claims are likely stretched also. PM simply doesn’t like the girl and it’s nothing to do with her skin colour he’s had similar extreme views on multiple celebrities which he stalks

Alf 27-03-2021 02:49 PM
Whatever Sharon said, I Alf, would like it to be known that I agree with her and echo whatever she said

What you gonna do about that?

Marsh. 27-03-2021 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 11024865)
Oh okay so it’s not been caught on tape, so you admit to making your opinion seem like fact to seem more legitimate?

Those complaints are not proven, and going by that video tape that colleague had no idea what she was talking about, the conversation was about mental health and she turned it into a debate it is not about... she seems to be a perpetual victim of everything, and so her claims are likely stretched also. PM simply doesn’t like the girl and it’s nothing to do with her skin colour he’s had similar extreme views on multiple celebrities which he stalks
I never said the complaints were proven. I was clarifying the REASON she is no longer on the show, due to allegations from her co-stars, one of which includes a recording.

The fact CBS are investigating and she's left the show speaks volumes.

But you keep grasping at those straws and pretending she was fired for liking Piers Morgan. Ignoring facts is your strong suit.

DouglasS 27-03-2021 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11024801)
She literally did and was caught on tape doing so.
Ignoring misinformation, not ignoring facts.

Alf 27-03-2021 03:03 PM
The choice is not that difficult.

Trumps new free speech social media platform? or the old, authoritarian social media platforms as we currently know them, that ruin peoples lives for having an opinion?

I think Trump will be winning this one.

Marsh. 27-03-2021 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 11024877)
Ignoring misinformation, not ignoring facts.
Well, I can't force you to comprehend English. That's up to you.

DouglasS 27-03-2021 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11024890)
Well, I can't force you to comprehend English. That's up to you.
Maybe re-word your posts if you’re the only forum member that is able to understand them, multiple people were confused by your claim of there being video proof of Sharon being racist on the talk. Myself, Ammi and Alf... Maybe the English/post problem doesn’t lie with everyone else... it may lie with you.

AnnieK 27-03-2021 03:11 PM
Given how litigious the US is, I would say that the network have pretty decent evidence or surely Sharon would sue?


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