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AnnieK 03-05-2021 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11041575)
I just don't understand the casual attitude here ,even if it WAS suicide and that's a big IF , someone has still died in a horrific disturbing way.

Completely agree, its shocking really.

Cherie 03-05-2021 01:19 PM

Is it any worse than hardly anyone commenting on these equally horrfic deaths :shrug:

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...d.php?t=375231

64 views...

AnnieK 03-05-2021 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11041678)
Is it any worse than hardly anyone commenting on these equally horrfic deaths :shrug:

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...d.php?t=375231

64 views...

I hadn't seen that thread but I still think taking the time to post and say its fake news or whatever is worse than either not seeing a thread or not commenting on it :shrug:

Not that is should be a competition really

Cherie 03-05-2021 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11041681)
I hadn't seen that thread but I still think taking the time to post and say its fake news or whatever is worse than either not seeing a thread or not commenting on it :shrug:

Not that is should be a competition really

No its not a competition, its not school either, adults will have varying views, that’s life

Nicky91 03-05-2021 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11041681)
I hadn't seen that thread but I still think taking the time to post and say its fake news or whatever is worse than either not seeing a thread or not commenting on it :shrug:

Not that is should be a competition really

i removed that one yes



this is horrible yes, but we'll see what we will get to know from the investigation



maybe this was something personal who knows, i mean setting someone alight makes me think into that direction either, because normal homophobic attacks usually is more physical beating, kicking



cases like this have happened here in my nation too (not to gay people specifically but whenever there was a personal vendetta or conflict)

AnnieK 03-05-2021 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11041683)
No its not a competition, its not school either, adults will have varying views, that’s life

Its a debate forum so yes they will have different views and so people can also challenge those views and say they don't agree with it :shrug:

Nicky91 03-05-2021 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11041685)
Its a debate forum so yes they will have different views and so people can also challenge those views and say they don't agree with it :shrug:

we are all entitled to our own views yes


if indeed a homophobic attack then yes it is disgusting


but if another motive, then still disgusting since it is an attack against a key worker


i personally don't really see Latvia as a homophobic nation :shrug: but tbh you have homophobes everywhere in the world i think, just in some countries more than in others

rusticgal 03-05-2021 01:41 PM

Horrific...poor man.

Crimson Dynamo 03-05-2021 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11041685)
Its a debate forum so yes they will have different views and so people can also challenge those views and say they don't agree with it :shrug:

I think its important on a debate forum to have standards. As this currently is an alleged incident (however horrific) the title should be:

Gay paramedic burnt alive in "homophobic attack".

Just as it is in EVERY media report. It is done this way so as not to mislead. It is a journalistic rule and its one that we should adhere to.

imo

Cherie 03-05-2021 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11041685)
Its a debate forum so yes they will have different views and so people can also challenge those views and say they don't agree with it :shrug:

Forum members immunity or lack of it to horrible events are not up for debate

AnnieK 03-05-2021 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11041695)
Forum members immunity or lack of it to horrible events are not up for debate

I don't understand what you mean? So you are saying if someone says something I don't agree with, I cannot say I don't agree with it? Everything is people's opinion and how they deal with things is different but that's what causes the debate aspect surely?

Captain.Remy 03-05-2021 03:07 PM

What an horrific way to die, RIP young man :(

rusticgal 03-05-2021 03:15 PM

I think people have jumped the gun on this thread and making something out of nothing regarding attitude. Newspaper articles have stipulated that 'suicide' was being investigated thats all...but quite probably this wasnt the case. People mentioning this are merely quoting newspaper reports and by no means downplaying or disrespecting what happened to this poor man.

arista 03-05-2021 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11041507)
...horrifying beyond all words...there was also another injured man who tried to help him...





Yes this Tweet knows more about the case.

Tom4784 03-05-2021 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11041678)
Is it any worse than hardly anyone commenting on these equally horrfic deaths :shrug:

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...d.php?t=375231

64 views...

You've tried this argument before, and it never works out for you. It's a wonder why you keep going back to it.

You don't have to comment on other threads to make your opinion in this thread valid, not seeing or responding to certain threads doesn't make the fact that a cavalier attitude (and in some cases, denial of the nature of this attack) any less tasteless. It's not a competition, stop trying to make it so by comparing the two incidents and keeping note of who posts in different threads like it somehow diminishes what they have to say, because it doesn't. It's just an incredibly lazy way of trying to bat aside views you don't like.

Crimson Dynamo 03-05-2021 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11041801)
You've tried this argument before, and it never works out for you. It's a wonder why you keep going back to it.

You don't have to comment on other threads to make your opinion in this thread valid, not seeing or responding to certain threads doesn't make the fact that a cavalier attitude (and in some cases, denial of the nature of this attack) any less tasteless. It's not a competition, stop trying to make it so by comparing the two incidents and keeping note of who posts in different threads like it somehow diminishes what they have to say, because it doesn't. It's just an incredibly lazy way of trying to bat aside views you don't like.

the nature of this attack has not been confirmed?

is so then a link would be great

Cherie 03-05-2021 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11041717)
I don't understand what you mean? So you are saying if someone says something I don't agree with, I cannot say I don't agree with it? Everything is people's opinion and how they deal with things is different but that's what causes the debate aspect surely?

You are not disagreeing though you are more or less judging levels of empathy, we read about horrifying events every day, some create more of a reaction than others it doesn’t mean that he didn’t die a horrendous death either by his own hand or something more sinister, pointing out people should have more empathy isn’t going to make it happen

AnnieK 03-05-2021 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11041812)
You are not disagreeing though you are more or less judging levels of empathy, we read about horrifying events every day, some create more of a reaction than others it doesn’t mean that he didn’t die a horrendous death either by his own hand or something more sinister, pointing out people should have more empathy isn’t going to make it happen

That's exactly what you did though by bringing up another thread that had not been commented on and even stating how many views it had had.

I find people saying its fake news is ****ty.....but I won't comment again, its not worth it

Cherie 03-05-2021 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11041816)
That's exactly what you did though by bringing up another thread that had not been commented on and even stating how many views it had had.

I find people saying its fake news is ****ty.....but I won't comment again, its not worth it

I brought up another thread as an example that horrific events can be completely ignored, it’s not confined to this case

I’m a bit confused by the reports on it, just read that a disgruntled neighbour set him alight, but in the same article that he had been brought to suicide so it’s unclear

Amy Jade 03-05-2021 07:45 PM

This forum is so messed up.

People getting attacked for posting sympathy for a man who was set alight and killed. Look at yourselves.

Marsh. 03-05-2021 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 11041474)
Glad to see that this is your take from the news story

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11041575)
I just don't understand the casual attitude here ,even if it WAS suicide and that's a big IF , someone has still died in a horrific disturbing way.

This. Sadly not surprised.

Absolutely heartbreaking story.

Marsh. 03-05-2021 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11041801)
You've tried this argument before, and it never works out for you. It's a wonder why you keep going back to it.

You don't have to comment on other threads to make your opinion in this thread valid, not seeing or responding to certain threads doesn't make the fact that a cavalier attitude (and in some cases, denial of the nature of this attack) any less tasteless. It's not a competition, stop trying to make it so by comparing the two incidents and keeping note of who posts in different threads like it somehow diminishes what they have to say, because it doesn't. It's just an incredibly lazy way of trying to bat aside views you don't like.

Spot on.

Cherie 03-05-2021 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11041838)
This forum is so messed up.

People getting attacked for posting sympathy for a man who was set alight and killed. Look at yourselves.

Where have you seen that?

Crimson Dynamo 03-05-2021 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11041851)
Where have you seen that?

It did not happen. It's a shut down

As isxa lot of posts that don't accept that this is at the moment allegation

The narrative is it's a fact and I'm sure that is correct but it's an allegation

And to pretend otherwise is one very, very slippery slope



Still the thread title is wrong

Nothing has been done about it

Make of that what you will...

Conzors 03-05-2021 11:15 PM

I know discrimination happens here but I’d like to think the police would do a full investigation still. Makes me feel so lucky to live here. RIP


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