What's the opposite of a nationalist? Is it a xenophobe?

Good to have the tory skengman back. All of this nonsense is a result of brexit. We were told that germany and france held all the power in the EU ( which was a lie), so why would they want to leave. It wouldn't be England v France ayway, it wuld be England vs the EU,

You thinking any other powerful country in the EU will see what has already happened to our lost jobs, our fishermen, our farmers, our poorer areas propped up by EU funding, and think "yeah, give us a bit of that action".

It's absolute nonsense, we are being destroyed by this act of self harm, and you don't even acknowledge reality.

The opposite of "most people."

We saved France in World War 2.

We really gonna blame our loss of jobs and effect on the 3conomy of the last year on Brexit? Countries are sick of the EU and they showed there true colours over the last 6 months when they tried to play with people's lives

Well there are 2 issues at play here; currently covid is masking what an absolute clusterfcuk brexit has been, but if you won't accept my word for it, do a bit of research on what brexit has meant for our financial sector, what the reality of it has been for our fishermen, how EU companies are stopping buying from us because it's too expensive and much more hassle, how we've pushed Ireland back to the brink. It's all out there for people to see and read.

Look at the funding that Cornwall received in the eu, what they were promised by the gov, and what the reality now is. All that information is out there if you're genuinely interested.

the actual reason this has kicked off
 

How fisherman's daughter dubbed the 'pirate of hope' sparked 'fishing war': Brexit-hating
hard-left French maritime minister Annick Girardin escalated tensions with threats to CUT
OFF Jersey's electricity

• Minister is a member of the Radical Party of the Left and a political street fighter
• 56-year-old grew up on French overseas territory of Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon
• Was Francophone minister and has railed against impact of Brexit on fishing

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/05...0291577823.jpg

Also responsible for fanning today's dispute is David Sellam, the head of the
Normandy-Brittany sea authority, who said that he believes Jersey has been
taken over by an 'extremist fringe who want to reduce French fishing access
and profit from Brexit'. He said: 'We're ready for war. We can bring Jersey to
its knees if necessary.'

:umm2:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art....html#comments

Can we ban Remy as our opening salvo?

I'm sure she does have a couple of good points.

As long as my champagne and brandy supplies are unaffected, they can do what they want

All jokes aside threatening to cut off the electric is pretty low, if someone like Priti Patel suggested to do likewise to another country there would be understandable uproar, it seems to have been received quite well though :umm2:

I voted remain btw, centrist views I know but they are dimly viewed by some :laugh:

Yes cut the legs from him Neem please

The French Boats
have left for now.

That was just a Lady in their Parliament
they would not kill babies in Hospital.

Even so just the suggestion would have sparked uproar if a sitting MP in Westminster said it

Even the Nazis did not do that to Jersey

We've sent them packing with their tails between their frogs legs.

The problem is they can return early AM
whenever they choose.

Sounds like the refugee boats.

[Boris Johnson says Royal Navy to stay on patrol in Jersey
as French military ships head to post-Brexit fishing protest]

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-to-sen...-port-12297840

summed it up perfectly


their using covid is a lame excuse to make people forget about brexit aftermath


also towards that deadline of leaving the EU, UK had seen quite a lot of companies abandoning them to put their main offices in EU nations

brexit was already horrible for the middle class in UK, but now also the covid aftermath another financial blow quite likely for the middle class


but not the upper class/super rich since well they won't feel a thing financially from either brexit or covid economical troubles


as for back on topic towards this, well everyone can dislike France and spout their hate onto them, but where we two nations fight, two have the blame

i'm neutral in this, and i am on nobodies side here, although i have to defend France's Macron given i quite like him, his efforts at the coronacrisis (not his fault that majority of french are vaccine hesitant or not wanting to obey simple corona measure rules)



whereas UK/France fight, i can see into years to come, better relations for USA/France (USA and EU in general)


don't think USA will be UK's trade ally either



had to have had this said, my thoughts on brexit, on UK's fingerpointing at EU mistakes (yes EU made mistakes but lets not think of UK as a perfect nation without any mistakes)

Let’s hope they don't move at a snails pace.

We had 1 English Supplier in work and we've had to stop using them since Brexit unfortunately

On a personal level I've bought a few bits and pieces online but anything over €25 you are likely to get caught for big import taxes (which my mom learned the hard way this week :skull: ) so I wouldn't really buy anything big from the UK anymore. Amazon used to be great for getting stuff way cheaper than here but not anymore. Luke wanted a face cam for his PS5 (which has to be the Sony one, no other is compatible) with taxes, duty and delivery it would have cost around €69 on Amazon, it cost be €49 to buy here with free delivery.

the trade both ways between the eu and the uk has dive bombed since brexit and its not related to covid because the only really affected areas there have been leisure and hospitality