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Tom4784 14-05-2021 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11045998)
Its just another Bandwagon to jump on. If you have any kind of objection to it you must be Racist...

What reason would people have to object to a woman speaking about her own experiences of racism in her industry? By all means, tell us.

GoldHeart 14-05-2021 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11045807)
Yeah, just finished watching it and really enjoyed it.

Keisha from Sugababes was done dirty by her management.

I might have to watch on catch-up, I'm glad they've highlighted the mistreatment. I remember watching a YouTube vid Keisha did about her experience.

Marsh. 14-05-2021 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11045998)
Its just another Bandwagon to jump on. If you have any kind of objection to it you must be Racist...

That's an invention.

White man with no connection to the music industry tells black woman in the industry herself that she's wrong about the racism in the industry she is discussing is not "an objection", at best it's a foolish attempt at baiting and at worst an offence taken at the discussion of racism rather than the racism itself.

But, yeah, you don't like the forum members disagreeing with him so that makes it a bandwagon. Why even bother coming into the thread?

Oliver_W 14-05-2021 04:28 PM

To be fair, while "bandwagon" might not be the nicest way to paint it, it's certainly become a "hot topic" recently. Some dude passing away in police custody after swallowing a bunch of drugs being knelt on sparked the issue, and she might not have got the show made.

GoldHeart 14-05-2021 04:45 PM

I'm glad people like Leigh-Ann , Keisha, Alexandra Burke etc are speaking out against racism. I don't understand why people have issue with that.

Marsh. 14-05-2021 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11046047)
To be fair, while "bandwagon" might not be the nicest way to paint it, it's certainly become a "hot topic" recently. Some dude passing away in police custody after swallowing a bunch of drugs being knelt on sparked the issue, and she might not have got the show made.

Yes, because the George Floyd situation invented racism. :rolleyes:

As for the struck out sentence, you're an idiot.

Oliver_W 14-05-2021 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11046058)
Yes, because the George Floyd situation invented racism. :rolleyes:

As for the struck out sentence, you're an idiot.

It didn't invent it, but it turned into the big talking point of the year.

Marsh. 14-05-2021 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11046061)
It didn't invent it, but it turned into the big talking point of the year.

And you think racism hasn't been a major talking point before and wouldn't be again? Ok.

Crimson Dynamo 14-05-2021 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11046058)
Yes, because the George Floyd situation invented racism. :rolleyes:

As for the struck out sentence, you're an idiot.

"sparked the issue"

how do you get "invented racism" from that?

:conf:

Also just calling people names is playground tactics, Josy already posted about this type of post only today.

Jordan. 14-05-2021 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11046002)
Why is some popstar making a little TV show causing such ire :joker:

Because it's highlighting race issues which the racists hate to see. It's really that simple.

Marsh. 14-05-2021 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11046095)
"sparked the issue"

how do you get "invented racism" from that?

:conf:

Also just calling people names is playground tactics, Josy already posted about this type of post only today.

Another one who didn't watch it.

George Floyd "sparked the issue" of racism in the music industry? Ok buddy.
George Floyd brought it to YOUR attention it seems. Not that you'll pay attention.

Amy Jade 14-05-2021 07:53 PM

I genuinely don't understand why anyone came here to slate a young black woman talking about how she's been treated within the industry she works in.

It's horrible to see anyone demean her experiences and it's very telling about how toxic this forum has become with racists and trolls being left to cripple it.

Tom4784 14-05-2021 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11045998)
Its just another Bandwagon to jump on. If you have any kind of objection to it you must be Racist...

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11046004)
What reason would people have to object to a woman speaking about her own experiences of racism in her industry? By all means, tell us.

Care to answer, Rustic?

LukeB 14-05-2021 08:48 PM

Lmao white people having an issue with a black girl speaking about race issues that she deals with daily which white people will never know how that feels. Just because she is successful doesn't mean she doesn't get comments. Actually watch the documentary

rusticgal 14-05-2021 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11046173)
Care to answer, Rustic?


I never said I had a problem with the content of the documentary...
IMO they would have had more of an impact on these issues had they raised them 2/3 years ago at the height of their fame......but the money they were making was obviously more important than their mental health at the time.
I hate racism and I hate bullying and I empathise with what they had to endure..both her and Jesy but why wait until now to bring it to light. People are having to endure bullying and racism all over the world but don’t have the platform they do and don’t have their wealth as some sort of comfort...because it is a comfort.

DouglasS 14-05-2021 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11046185)
I never said I had a problem with the content of the documentary...
IMO they would have had more of an impact on these issues had they raised them 2/3 years ago at the height of their fame......but the money they were making was obviously more important than their mental health at the time.
I hate racism and I hate bullying and I empathise with what they had to endure..both her and Jesy but why wait until now to bring it to light. People are having to endure bullying and racism all over the world but don’t have the platform they do and don’t have their wealth as some sort of comfort...because it is a comfort.

Because their albums are not selling as much rusti is the answer. They’re not earning as much cash, before documentaries were of no interest because they were making much more money through tours and album sales, now it’s dried up with covid and lack of sales

Mitchell 14-05-2021 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 11046192)
Because their albums are not selling as much rusti is the answer. They’re not earning as much cash, before documentaries were of no interest because they were making much more money through tours and album sales, now it’s dried up with covid and lack of sales

Jesy’s documentary was in 2019 (after Leigh-Anne did a major interview about the racism she has faced in the music industry), before Covid, and Little Mix have literally had a number one album and single in the last year, they’re just as big now as they have ever been, maybe she actually wants to speak out on an issue that needs to be spoken about?

And if this thread tells me anything, it’s the trolling documentary done by Jesy and the racism one done by Leigh-Anne are very much still needed.

rusticgal 14-05-2021 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 11046192)
Because their albums are not selling as much rusti is the answer. They’re not earning as much cash, before documentaries were of no interest because they were making much more money through tours and album sales, now it’s dried up with covid and lack of sales


Yup...I get it.

GoldHeart 15-05-2021 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 11046192)
Because their albums are not selling as much rusti is the answer. They’re not earning as much cash, before documentaries were of no interest because they were making much more money through tours and album sales, now it’s dried up with covid and lack of sales

Oh really ? is that why they won best British Group at the BRIT AWARDS ,i think they're doing just fine. And this is an important topic to be addressed when it comes to mistreatment and racism.

Marsh. 15-05-2021 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11046185)
I never said I had a problem with the content of the documentary...
IMO they would have had more of an impact on these issues had they raised them 2/3 years ago at the height of their fame......but the money they were making was obviously more important than their mental health at the time.
I hate racism and I hate bullying and I empathise with what they had to endure..both her and Jesy but why wait until now to bring it to light. People are having to endure bullying and racism all over the world but don’t have the platform they do and don’t have their wealth as some sort of comfort...because it is a comfort.

The old "why now?" bullsh*t when commenting on something you haven't even watched and so are embarrassing yourself coming out with comments that have no relation to it.
"People are having to endure bullying and racism all over the world" so Leigh-Anne is being criticised for trying to do her bit by making changes in the industry she can actually make a difference in, the record label she can have influence in, why exactly?

Don't bother doing anything guys, unless you can change the whole world yourself, overnight, don't bother.

As for 3 years ago being the "height of their fame", I'm not sure what measuring stick you're using but they made history at the Brits less than a week ago.

Ammi 15-05-2021 06:26 AM

…I haven’t watched all of this yet but I started to watch it last night and I thought Leigh-Anne conveyed her experiences so well…

…’One thinks shes the victim of the group because she’s too black…’….that comment really doesn’t apply at all and to watch the documentary would contradict that completely…I mean, I just don’t understand how that could ever be concluded from anyone in watching…

….Leigh-Anne was very open in that she felt almost apologetic about her own experiences in comparison to some and what their life experiences have been…and that’s something that’s often noticeable as well in society…’I’m against racism but I only recognise racism if it’s the more extreme actions/words, then I’m appalled’’ etc is something that is seen a lot, I feel…

…anyways, the only time that she stated that she’d experienced the more extreme words levelled against her was a Primary School experience when she said that she’d had a description from someone of ‘coming straight from the jungle’…I’ve personally known words such as and similar to that laid at children and the impact on them that’s carried ….Leigh-Anne stated that she herself felt that her experiences were just minuscule compared to others and as I say, her whole vibe was more apologetic to those who experience horrendous prejudice…but she also stated that she undoubtedly did feel that there were ‘differences’ with things toward her and other black girls in the industry ….I recall having many conversations with CeeCee/IthinkIloveyoutoo, the member….she often spoke about skin colour in particular with females because of her own experiences ….and she also said so, so many of those same things that were being said by those ladies in the documentary…that there is a ‘conditioning’ of ‘black isn’t beautiful’ and those are the experiences it seems that many have and that were being explained …I’ll finish watching it later as it’s a really worthwhile watch….

Amy Jade 15-05-2021 09:35 AM

Confetti was the 29th best selling album in the UK and was released in November so only had 2 months of sales and their tour had sold out most venues before being cancelled due to covid, people saying they aren't earning are morons. Stop embarrassing yourselves.

rusticgal 15-05-2021 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11046275)
Confetti was the 29th best selling album in the UK and was released in November so only had 2 months of sales and their tour had sold out most venues before being cancelled due to covid, people saying they aren't earning are morons. Stop embarrassing yourselves.


They are on their way out....they have peaked and are on the slippery slope. It happens to all bands and you are a moron if you cant see it.

Amy Jade 15-05-2021 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11046300)
They are on their way out....they have peaked and are on the slippery slope. It happens to all bands and you are a moron if you cant see it.

They've literally just won Best British Group at The Brits and made history in being the only girl group to do so. Even if they did decide to call it a day for some reason what a legacy.

Oh but some bloke off a big brother forum says they are past their best so it must be true. :laugh2:

Marsh. 15-05-2021 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11046304)
They've literally just won Best British Group at The Brits and made history in being the only girl group to do so. Even if they did decide to call it a day for some reason what a legacy.

Oh but some bloke off a big brother forum says they are past their best so it must be true. :laugh2:

:joker:


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