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Marsh. 27-06-2021 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11064836)
It's disrespectful to the people who are born and raised in African countries when you can't even tell anyone anything about Africa and its very disrespectful to the white, mixed, Asian, Middle Eastern ect Africans who are constantly being told by African Americans that they are not allowed to call themselves African despite being born and living there while the Americans can't even name 5 countries or don't partake in any culture,

I'm sorry, where is this happening?

Denver 27-06-2021 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11064866)
I'm sorry, where is this happening?

The amount of videos on social media of black Americans who have never left the country attacking white South africans by saying they will never be African because they are not black.

You can't claim a nationality for your self it just does not work like that

bots 27-06-2021 07:21 AM

of all the things to get outraged about at the moment, this is pretty low on the agenda. It doesn't even apply in the UK.

Cherie 27-06-2021 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11064828)
Not even a thing, just because your grandfather 8x removed was born in Ireland it doesn't make you Irish and you are only seen as part of another nationality if its your birth grand parents or parents born there

Seriously Denver you should do a bit of research before you come out with this crap

Why do you think Biden has an interest in Northern Ireland? The Irish American vote is huge, most of these people have never set foot in Ireland but they are very proud of their roots

Oliver_W 27-06-2021 07:42 AM

Tbh I thought the term "African American" came because people were uncomfortable with the word black?

Livia 27-06-2021 07:44 AM

I thought I was alone here, that I was maybe missing some point. But... no.

bots 27-06-2021 07:50 AM

the same is true for Scottish Americans who come over here to soak up their ancestors history, find out what clan they are attached to etc.

Heritage, no matter how far back it goes, is a very big deal

Cherie 27-06-2021 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11064899)
I thought I was alone here, that I was maybe missing some point. But... no.

I don’t know what the point is at all tbh

Denver 27-06-2021 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11064890)
Seriously Denver you should do a bit of research before you come out with this crap

Why do you think Biden has an interest in Northern Ireland? The Irish American vote is huge, most of these people have never set foot in Ireland but they are very proud of their roots

They can't stake a claim in Africa when they don't even know what country they are stacking the claim in and people on mainland Africa actually don't like it

user104658 27-06-2021 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11064902)
the same is true for Scottish Americans who come over here to soak up their ancestors history, find out what clan they are attached to etc.

Heritage, no matter how far back it goes, is a very big deal


We had an exchange student for a year in my Uni residence who had chosen to do his year abroad in Scotland because …. His family had Irish roots on his father’s side, but there were no exchange places for Irish Universities so he decided that Scotland was “close enough” :joker:.

GoldHeart 27-06-2021 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11064898)
Tbh I thought the term "African American" came because people were uncomfortable with the word black?

Yeah but like the dated awful word "coloured" people eventually realised it's actually ok to actually say BLACK , it's strange that African American is still used . Obviously it's no where near as cringe as saying "coloured" though.

Denver 27-06-2021 09:16 AM

Also using Scottish and Irish heritage is a very poor example to back your argument up, neither is a continent with Iver 50 countries hundreds of traditions, religions, cultures, tribes ect and to just generalise Africa as black is a very bad thing to do

Crimson Dynamo 27-06-2021 09:21 AM

the crux of your thread premise is based on tiktok clips and

"I don't understand the obsession with the Americans calling every black person African American? "

there is no obsession

and

they dont


So really i am not sure what can be said?

Denver 27-06-2021 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11064927)
the crux of your thread premise is based on tiktok clips and

"I don't understand the obsession with the Americans calling every black person African American? "

there is no obsession

and

they dont


So really i am not sure what can be said?

You name one black American that has never been referred to African American?

Marsh. 27-06-2021 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11064880)
The amount of videos on social media of black Americans who have never left the country attacking white South africans by saying they will never be African because they are not black.

You can't claim a nationality for your self it just does not work like that

And you've researched their life and ancestry to assess they're not, in fact, African American?

thesheriff443 27-06-2021 09:29 AM

Denver i could turn round and say you shouldn’t be talking about African Americans because you are not one that’s how far you are stretching this

It’s just another band wagon that people jump

Marsh. 27-06-2021 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11064924)
Also using Scottish and Irish heritage is a very poor example to back your argument up, neither is a continent with Iver 50 countries hundreds of traditions, religions, cultures, tribes ect and to just generalise Africa as black is a very bad thing to do

Nobody generalised Africa as "black".

Denver 27-06-2021 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11064931)
And you've researched their life and ancestry to assess they're not, in fact, African American?

Most of them have no history of ancestory because records of slaves were never kept and you don't see all white people called European Americans or Asian people Asian Americans, 90% of America is not naturalised Americans so if they want to start calling one race from the continent they think they are from then they need to be doing it to all races or stop and the Americans need to stop acting like they have high authority over Africs when they know nothing about it

Denver 27-06-2021 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11064935)
Nobody generalised Africa as "black".

Calling all black people African American is not generalising Africa as a black only continent ?

Cherie 27-06-2021 09:30 AM

Denver the black community have requested they be referred to as African American, take it up with Jesse et al..:shrug:

Marsh. 27-06-2021 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11064936)
Most of them have no history of ancestory because records of slaves were never kept and you don't see all white people called European Americans or Asian people Asian Americans, 90% of America is not naturalised Americans so if they want to start calling one race from the continent they think they are from then they need to be doing it to all races or stop and the Americans need to stop acting like they have high authority over Africs when they know nothing about it

You're taking offence on behalf of a continent that hasn't taken offence.

Marsh. 27-06-2021 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11064938)
Calling all black people African American is not generalising Africa as a black only continent ?

No.

And not all black people are referred to as African American.

Denver 27-06-2021 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11064939)
Denver the black community have requested they be referred to as African American, take it up with Jesse et al..:shrug:

But not the black community who currently dont live in America and i have seen so many posts and videos of people who know which African country they came from but live in America who are totally against the term

Denver 27-06-2021 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11064941)
No.

And not all black people are referred to as African American.

Name one black American who hasn't

Marsh. 27-06-2021 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11064945)
Name one black American who hasn't

:joker:

You want me to provide proof but we're supposed to take your word for it?


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