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Redway 07-10-2021 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11101383)
Worsened.

I think 2016 particularly became a turning point in splitting societies and even families.

I'd say up to 2012 things were okay but even then cracks were there as to society.

From 2012 onwards however.
Intolerance has taken over, suspicion, distrust and a breakdown on lots of levels.

I don't exclude myself from that.
I have got less tolerant too.

It's actually very sad but I can't see it being repaired or rebuilt either.

Yes though, the last coming now up to 10 years have been in my view, the most divisive generated from the top down as to society.

Agreed. 2016 is well overrated.
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11101395)
Not to sound too much like an old fogie............buuuut I really do believe Social media has to take a huge chunk of the blame for dividing people and riling people up

Yup. Millennials feel like they have to live the polished fantasy life that people portray on social media and they go bankrupt in the process.

No 19-year-old lad needs a Mercedes and 8 Gucci belts but that’s what certain corners of Instagram will have them thinking.

That and the fact that every other person seems to want to self-identify as neurodivergent (autistic, ADHD, depressed, etc.), all the while trivialising those conditions.

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11101446)
It all depends what you mean by "Society"?

and then how on earth you would quantify "Better" or "worse"

Being the sort of person I am I’m less interested in governmental/political factors and more interested in people and social trends so that’s what I personally took as hallmarks of society. But you can talk about it from any perspective you want.

And it’s a casual thread on a Big Brother forum. No one’s really asking you to statistically quantify better or worse. All you need to do is give an opinion.

arista 07-10-2021 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 11101416)


It is not 11 years.
2010 was Conserve-LibDem Power

Zizu 07-10-2021 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11101328)
Heavy one for a Wednesday night but I’m in one of those thread-making moods and I’ve recently been thinking about how much certain things have changed since 2010 (at least in comparison to how we were envisioning it at the beginning of that new decade).

2020 and 2021 have been write-offs (or at least not what was expected) for pretty much everyone so in theoretical terms we might as well still be at the tail-end of 2019, so if you were to envision/place yourself on or at New Year’s Eve 2019/20 (either with all the knowledge of how things would unfold within the following 22-month period or just taking the 2010s into account), how would you describe the state of society compared to ten years prior with regard to general life and social trends (e.g., broadening of L.G.B.T./gender identities, more political correctness, adult millennial culture emerging)?


I wish I still lived in the 60’s .. much quieter, safer , slower pace .

I’d still want the Fibre Broadband , Sky , Netflix, Amazon Prime and YouTube though !!


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user104658 07-10-2021 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11101494)
Agreed. 2016 is well overrated.


Yup. Millennials feel like they have to live the polished fantasy life that people portray on social media and they go bankrupt in the process.

No 19-year-old lad needs a Mercedes and 8 Gucci belts but that’s what certain corners of Instagram will have them thinking.

Not to make you feel old Redway, but the youngest millennials are currently 25 :omgno:. Today’s 19 year olds are very firmly GenZ.

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That and the fact that every other person seems to want to self-identify as neurodivergent (autistic, ADHD, depressed, etc.), all the while trivialising those conditions
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I see this slightly differently actually. I think a combination of poor socialisation in early years + an over reliance on social media has lead to a generation that has a lot of people who are 1) socially awkward and 2) suffer from generalised and/or social anxiety. The combination of those things is symptomatically similar to an autism diagnosis, which is why they believe they actually are neurodivergent, when it’s purely social conditioning.

It’s a bugbear of mine because my youngest is learning disabled with a clinical diagnosis of ASD… but because there are so many anxious teens with no comorbid disabilities self-diagnosing with autism, I feel like I can’t just describe my daughter as autistic. I have to qualify it with “yes, she is ‘properly’ disabled”. People hear “autistic” and think “they’ll be quirky, anxious and shy” not significant neurological disability.

Oliver_W 07-10-2021 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11101642)
I wish I still lived in the 60’s .. much quieter, safer , slower pace .

I’d still want the Fibre Broadband , Sky , Netflix, Amazon Prime and YouTube though !!


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Friends sometimes say I was "born in the wrong decade" because most films and music I like are from around the eighties ... BUT if I'd have grown up back then a)I'd have to wait for each thing to come out, rather than having it all available now and b) I'd now be really OLD!

Niamh. 07-10-2021 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11101645)
Friends sometimes say I was "born in the wrong decade" because most films and music I like are from around the eighties ... BUT if I'd have grown up back then a)I'd have to wait for each thing to come out, rather than having it all available now and b) I'd now be really OLD!

It was all part of the enjoyment though, waiting for physical albums to come out, the album covers with the art work and words to the songs etc.

Beso 07-10-2021 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11101645)
Friends sometimes say I was "born in the wrong decade" because most films and music I like are from around the eighties ... BUT if I'd have grown up back then a)I'd have to wait for each thing to come out, rather than having it all available now and b) I'd now be really OLD!



You would be a happier person though.

Oliver_W 07-10-2021 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11101654)
It was all part of the enjoyment though, waiting for physical albums to come out, the album covers with the art work and words to the songs etc.

I prefer physical media to digital, and I collect different releases! The few modern things I do like, I do properly :dance:

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11101655)
You would be a happier person though.

Everyone would be happier without social media tbh

Beso 07-10-2021 08:15 PM

Mark Zuckerberg would be a miserable little sod.

Oliver_W 07-10-2021 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11101658)
Mark Zuckerberg would be a miserable little sod.

As he should be.

hijaxers 07-10-2021 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11101658)
Mark Zuckerberg would be a miserable little sod.

Is he really happy ? have you read the last words of Steve Jobs , he say's all there is to say about wealth.

Zizu 07-10-2021 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11101654)
It was all part of the enjoyment though, waiting for physical albums to come out, the album covers with the art work and words to the songs etc.


Twin cassette recorder/players :)


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Zizu 07-10-2021 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11101657)
I prefer physical media to digital, and I collect different releases! The few modern things I do like, I do properly :dance:


Everyone would be happier without social media tbh


That’s open for debate ..

I personally love social media ... as in TikTok , Instagram, Twitter and YouTube .

I detest Facebook oddly


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bots 08-10-2021 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11101654)
It was all part of the enjoyment though, waiting for physical albums to come out, the album covers with the art work and words to the songs etc.

i have hundreds of physical albums, i can't remember the last time i looked at them. They are all warping nicely at the back of the garage :laugh:

arista 08-10-2021 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 11101665)
Is he really happy ? have you read the last words of Steve Jobs , he say's all there is to say about wealth.



Yes Mark Z
is happy


His Mother keeps him on the Ground
if she goes
he may not be so cool.

Niamh. 08-10-2021 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11101686)
i have hundreds of physical albums, i can't remember the last time i looked at them. They are all warping nicely at the back of the garage [emoji23]

It's different when you're a teenager though or a teenager in the 90's, music was everything then

Redway 08-10-2021 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11101643)
Not to make you feel old Redway, but the youngest millennials are currently 25 :omgno:. Today’s 19 year olds are very firmly GenZ.

I’m pretty sure you got the gist of that message either way. Some people use millennial in reference to young people in general because in the most technical sense a millennial is someone who came/will come of age in the early 21st century and that can technically include the year 2049 if we’re really pushing the boat. It’s pop psychologists who think millennial ends at a certain-and-very-definite point in the late ’90s but it’s not as if it or Gen. Z are very scientific concepts in the first place.

Crimson Dynamo 08-10-2021 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11101690)
It's different when you're a teenager though or a teenager in the 90's, music was everything then

i was thinking about this the other day and I think peak music influence for me was when i was 12-15 -i am very nostalgic for that period

Niamh. 08-10-2021 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11101712)
i was thinking about this the other day and I think peak music influence for me was when i was 12-15 -i am very nostalgic for that period

I would say a bit later for me probably 14-17

user104658 08-10-2021 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11101729)
I would say a bit later for me probably 14-17

Yep, lay in the dark as a 15/16 year old with a CD player and headphones, listening to music and feeling like all of the lyrics are about your life specifically. Peak teen angst. Especially if it was after a few too many Budweisers and some high drama at a house party :joker:.

Niamh. 08-10-2021 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11101732)
Yep, lay in the dark as a 15/16 year old with a CD player and headphones, listening to music and feeling like all of the lyrics are about your life specifically. Peak teen angst. Especially if it was after a few too many Budweisers and some high drama at a house party :joker:.

aww yeah, so much nostalgia back then. I was right bang in the centre of the Grunge era too so maximum angst. Pretty sure Eddie Vedder is one of the only main singers from the bigger grunge bands still alive today, quite a few of them committed suicide :(

Mystic Mock 08-10-2021 02:21 PM

I believe it's worsened and not because of any prejudice towards any group of people (being accepting of other groups of people has been the best part about society over the last few years) I feel like overall people are a lot more miserable and stressed than I remember people being 11 years ago.

Maybe I'm being biased because of my childhood memories of those times, but a lot of people don't seem to know how to have fun nowadays, and tbf with our current Government I can't exactly blame these people for feeling that way.

GoldHeart 08-10-2021 02:34 PM

It's worse now for sure, but I can't pick an option that fits the correct way to describe it.

But this government is utter garbage , Covid / pandemic is something we have to live with now . People are more worried overall and are definitely having less fun than 11 years ago.

I sometimes think about those times and how non of us could have predicted any of this.

Zizu 08-10-2021 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11101797)
It's worse now for sure, but I can't pick an option that fits the correct way to describe it.

But this government is utter garbage , Covid / pandemic is something we have to live with now . People are more worried overall and are definitely having less fun than 11 years ago.

I sometimes think about those times and how non of us could have predicted any of this.


“The biggest fear is the fear of uncertainty “

Spike Milligan ( or someone else )


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Redway 13-10-2021 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11101796)
I believe it's worsened and not because of any prejudice towards any group of people (being accepting of other groups of people has been the best part about society over the last few years) I feel like overall people are a lot more miserable and stressed than I remember people being 11 years ago.

Maybe I'm being biased because of my childhood memories of those times, but a lot of people don't seem to know how to have fun nowadays, and tbf with our current Government I can't exactly blame these people for feeling that way.

You’re absolutely right Mock. Capitalism’s been the death of everyone over a certain age in these past five years. There’s no sense of fun outside weekends anymore. You just wake up, grind and tip-toe around everyone so they’re not offended by anything you say.


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