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Liam- 23-12-2021 12:00 PM

Oh, are people still pretending that comedians aren’t allowed to tell jokes?

smudgie 23-12-2021 12:02 PM

We should all be able to have the choice.
Turn something off if it’s the tv or don’t go to a show that you think will offend you.

Oliver_W 23-12-2021 12:05 PM

Little Britain getting yeeted from existence shows how right she is.

arista 23-12-2021 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NoëlEdmonds (Post 11124475)
Oh, are people still pretending that comedians aren’t allowed to tell jokes?



On interviews
they have said it.

rusticgal 23-12-2021 02:09 PM

I mean a lot of comic material is basically taking the piss out of someone or something...often a joke at someones expense or a pop at the Irish The Scottish..the English...The Welsh....or taking the piss out of womens behaviour or mens behaviour. Its been going on for years...thats the comical factor. If you cant laugh at yourself if you fall into any of the catagories then you lack a sense of humour....and if you dont like it...turn it off.

Alf 23-12-2021 02:14 PM

The Golden age



arista 23-12-2021 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11124483)
The Golden age





Yes What a Great Black actor.

Mystic Mock 24-12-2021 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta (Post 11124420)
everyone is expected to be miserable these days. Misery is forced down our throats in 1 form or another every single day of the year. I dread to think what peoples mental health will be like in 10+ years

I would agree with this.

Even when you go to tune into something that's meant to be lighthearted like Sky Sports News, it instead turns into a Covid discussion for 18 hours of the day, racist abuse for about 3 hours of the day, and then finally what I am guessing everyone is tuning into the Channel for which is the Sports themselves get about 3 hours too.

I miss the 00's and early 10's where if you wanted to watch something serious you had to seek it out rather than it being forced down my throat like nowadays does.

Mystic Mock 24-12-2021 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11124431)
stuff like racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia are a very serious problem of the world though


not to make fun or laugh about

Tbf if you banned a lot of those jokes then Family Guy wouldn't be half the programme that it was imo.

And btw Seth MacFarlane is far from a racist, he uses his Shows to highlight the flaws with viewpoints like racism & homophobia, he just presents these issues in a humorous way to stop the audience from feeling preached at.

Mystic Mock 24-12-2021 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MissyToes (Post 11124482)
I mean a lot of comic material is basically taking the piss out of someone or something...often a joke at someones expense or a pop at the Irish The Scottish..the English...The Welsh....or taking the piss out of womens behaviour or mens behaviour. Its been going on for years...thats the comical factor. If you cant laugh at yourself if you fall into any of the catagories then you lack a sense of humour....and if you dont like it...turn it off.

100% this.

Nicky91 24-12-2021 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11124483)
The Golden age



more like the age where people with own opinions were silenced, where racist humour was shoved down everyone's throats

Crimson Dynamo 24-12-2021 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11124564)
Tbf if you banned a lot of those jokes then Family Guy wouldn't be half the programme that it was imo.

And btw Seth MacFarlane is far from a racist, he uses his Shows to highlight the flaws with viewpoints like racism & homophobia, he just presents these issues in a humorous way to stop the audience from feeling preached at.

Great point Mock and its just the same as what the writers were doing with Alf Garnet in the 70s

Nicky91 24-12-2021 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by All The Jingle Ladies (Post 11124573)
Great point Mock and its just the same as what the writers were doing with Alf Garnet in the 70s

Seth has got genuine talent, something what that creep Alf Garnet didn't have

Crimson Dynamo 24-12-2021 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11124574)
Seth has got genuine talent, something what that creep Alf Garnet didn't have

Alf Garnet is a fictional character

:facepalm:

Nicky91 24-12-2021 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by All The Jingle Ladies (Post 11124575)
Alf Garnet is a fictional character

:facepalm:

by some unknown talentless lame wannabe actor :laugh3:

thesheriff443 24-12-2021 08:09 AM

If you look at a program like you’ve been framed, it’s actually people having accidents with most getting hurt

Millions have laughed at someone getting hurt.

Real racists real sexist’s real homophobic people don’t laugh at jokes

Oliver_W 24-12-2021 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MissyToes (Post 11124482)
I mean a lot of comic material is basically taking the piss out of someone or something...often a joke at someones expense or a pop at the Irish The Scottish..the English...The Welsh....or taking the piss out of womens behaviour or mens behaviour. Its been going on for years...thats the comical factor. If you cant laugh at yourself if you fall into any of the catagories then you lack a sense of humour....and if you dont like it...turn it off.

In the mid-aughts to early teens "we" seemed to collectively understand that taking the piss out of each other is completely harmless, and that in most cases those telling the jokes don't really think the things they're saying.

Comedy has completely lost its teeth in recent years.

That said, my favourite currently running comedy is Not Going Out, and that's just quickfire silly jokes and wordplay. The only thing remotely "problematic" about it is that the cast is all white, but even that's because they're all an extended family.

arista 24-12-2021 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11124572)
more like the age where people with own opinions were silenced, where racist humour was shoved down everyone's throats



It was the early 1970's


All changed now

Captain.Remy 24-12-2021 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Wee Donkey (Post 11124438)
Alot of comedy has a lot of racist, homophobic and sexiest tendencies and we have moved away from that and as recent comedies have shown you don't actually need those things to be funny

Exactly! And if you needed to resort to racism, homophobia and sexism to call yourself a comedian, then you were never funny in the first place. So at that point, it's one less cringe comedian out there. The good ones know how to adapt.

arista 24-12-2021 09:32 AM

Nice to see
Capt Remy
the old crew

Mystic Mock 24-12-2021 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by All The Jingle Ladies (Post 11124573)
Great point Mock and its just the same as what the writers were doing with Alf Garnet in the 70s

I'll take your word for it as a lot of Comedies liked to do that sort of thing until recently.

Nicky91 24-12-2021 04:12 PM



me at people who call us woke or cancel culture

ur venomous poison

Nicky91 24-12-2021 04:21 PM

take away Lipman's damehood too please, ungrateful nasty sour woman

they should all have a career like hers :idc:

Mystic Mock 24-12-2021 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy (Post 11124589)
Exactly! And if you needed to resort to racism, homophobia and sexism to call yourself a comedian, then you were never funny in the first place. So at that point, it's one less cringe comedian out there. The good ones know how to adapt.

I think when it comes to Comedies touching prejudice as a topic is that it is all about the intent.

Like another example that I'd give is Eric Cartman in South Park, a hugely popular character for the Show who is every kind of ist or ism known to mankind, but it's clear that the Show's intent is to laugh at Cartman than with Cartman because the Show understands that his views are horrific in general, but imo is a fun character to watch.

One of the reasons why I find not just Comedy but TV in general so dull nowadays is because characters are too sanitised in what they can and can't do in terms of content.

I'm going off on a tangent here I know, but I watched Angel I think last year now, and some of the things that get said and actually happen in that programme would never get made today, but in some areas it would make the Show far less interesting to me at least.

Personally speaking if a Show came out tomorrow attacking white people in a serious manner I'd just not watch the programme, I don't understand this culture of wanting to censor everything.


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