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Niamh. 29-03-2022 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11150646)
I mean i would wonder if she had cancer tbh and done my research to confirm she doesnt

but then at the point of then finding out that she has alopecia id have realised the joke was still distasteful for the oscar stage.

Yeah that's a point I suppose, so a lazy joke really, on a stage that big every joke should be researched for things like that. Still doesn't excuse Will hitting him though

GoldHeart 29-03-2022 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11150643)
Says in this article that he didn't know

https://pagesix.com/2022/03/28/chris...-has-alopecia/

I mean did you know? How many people posting on TiBB did I wonder? I didn't anyway

Yeah to be honest I DIDN'T KNOW either that she had alopecia, as people change their hairstyles all the time:shrug: .

Niamh. 29-03-2022 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11150649)
the question really is .... why did Will hit him, the joke in itself wasn't the reason. No celeb in the public eye has not had some form of bad taste joke directed at them. We live in the twitter age fgs [emoji23]



For me that makes it more serious and honestly, i don't think its about standing up for family either. He basically lets his wife do her own thing in the relationship department and i'm sure there will be a long line of disgruntled ex flings that have been less than pleasant over the years. So again, what made the oscars the event that made him tip over the edge? My take is that he is typically an angry man and he puts on a front that he is this nice guy that loves everyone and he has just been found out for who he really is

Maybe so, talk about bad timing for him though, he really tarnished a night that should have been one his best and he tarnished it for the Williams family too

Alf 29-03-2022 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11150649)
the question really is .... why did Will hit him, the joke in itself wasn't the reason. No celeb in the public eye has not had some form of bad taste joke directed at them. We live in the twitter age fgs :laugh:

For me that makes it more serious and honestly, i don't think its about standing up for family either. He basically lets his wife do her own thing in the relationship department and i'm sure there will be a long line of disgruntled ex flings that have been less than pleasant over the years. So again, what made the oscars the event that made him tip over the edge? My take is that he is typically an angry man and he puts on a front that he is this nice guy that loves everyone and he has just been found out for who he really is

You've probably just described about 90% of celebrities there.

GoldHeart 29-03-2022 03:32 PM

Yeah sadly this has now become more about Will Smith's anger & Chris Rock's silly joke , and less about the ACTUAL MOVIES/OSCAR NOMINATIONS/WINS.

I' still curious about his movie King Richard though.

Beso 29-03-2022 05:35 PM

Team smith now, theres someone I would happily bitch slap for no apparent reason at this moment in time.

Kizzy 29-03-2022 07:37 PM

It's quite surreal, they had a very public relationship, and we're open and honest about EVERY aspect of their marriage. Jadas name was in everyone's mouth as people discussed the Smith family at length.

Why suddenly is she not allowed to be spoken about?..

user104658 29-03-2022 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 11150789)

Why suddenly is she not allowed to be spoken about?..

Because her HAIR FELL OUT, Kizzy :worry:

Cherie 29-03-2022 08:39 PM

Think he snorted a few lines pre show

Beso 29-03-2022 08:40 PM

Do you think he has the power to cancel any usage of his, get my wife's name out your mouth, comment, on meme form?

Beso 29-03-2022 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11150810)
Think he snorted a few lines pre show

I think he thought he was in his own house sat on that couch.

Cherie 29-03-2022 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11150812)
I think he thought he was in his own house sat on that couch.

:laugh:

UserSince2005 29-03-2022 09:39 PM

The more time passes the more shocking this is. The fact that he just got up on stage walked up to him and slapped him lol it’s just ridiculous

rusticgal 29-03-2022 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11150616)
Will was 100% in the wrong and the more I watch it the more strongly I feel about that. I also think having watched it quite a few times now that Chris Rock might not have even known Jada had alopecia as he looked very confused about why Will was so angry. Either way you can't just hit someone like that

Yup…I agree.

GoldHeart 29-03-2022 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 11150789)
It's quite surreal, they had a very public relationship, and we're open and honest about EVERY aspect of their marriage. Jadas name was in everyone's mouth as people discussed the Smith family at length.

Why suddenly is she not allowed to be spoken about?..

Kizzy it's not a case of she "can't" be spoken about, it's the fact Chris Rock made a silly joke about her hair loss. But I don't think he knew about her alopecia.

Also it turns out there's a history ,and back in 2016 he made a dig about Jada then aswell.

Niamh. 29-03-2022 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11150821)
Kizzy it's not a case of she "can't" be spoken about, it's the fact Chris Rock made a silly joke about her hair loss. But I don't think he knew about her alopecia.



Also it turns out there's a history ,and back in 2016 he made a dig about Jada then aswell.

Oh fgs though that isn't really a "history " that was 1 joke a comedian made 8 years ago and again a very mild joke

Mystic Mock 30-03-2022 01:32 PM

Chris Rock is a Comedian, why can't people just leave them alone rather than acting offended all of the time? I get that Will Smith probably thinks that he was being malicious, but I just think that Chris Rock was trying to do "edgy" humour and it's backfired on him.

Imo Will Smith needs to grow a thicker skin as celebrities get mocked all of the time by Comedians, or they used to anyway.

Liam- 30-03-2022 01:40 PM

iirc, on one of her podcasts Jada has said that Chris Rock has been a problem within the Smith family for a long time, so there’s already personal beef embedded in the situation and I’m sorry, but there is a very big difference between making fun of people for the things they do and say and their illnesses that they have no control over, should Will have slapped him? Obviously not, it was ridiculously over the top, however, I don’t buy into the he shouldn’t have been offended narrative, when a joke is aimed at a specific person for a specific uncontrollable situation, people have the right to be offended if it offends them, since when is people having feelings a bad thing? Is everyone supposed to be heartless robots these days or?

Mystic Mock 30-03-2022 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11150920)
iirc, on one of her podcasts Jada has said that Chris Rock has been a problem within the Smith family for a long time, so there’s already personal beef embedded in the situation and I’m sorry, but there is a very big difference between making fun of people for the things they do and say and their illnesses that they have no control over, should Will have slapped him? Obviously not, it was ridiculously over the top, however, I don’t buy into the he shouldn’t have been offended narrative, when a joke is aimed at a specific person for a specific uncontrollable situation, people have the right to be offended if it offends them, since when is people having feelings a bad thing? Is everyone supposed to be heartless robots these days or?

I suppose it depends on if Chris Rock was really joking or not for me.

I do feel like people get offended at all sorts of Comedy nowadays though, I mean if Will Smith thinks Chris Rock was mean to his Wife how would he feel if someone like Frankie Boyle made a joke about his Wife? Because no doubt it'd be more offensive.

GoldHeart 30-03-2022 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11150922)
I suppose it depends on if Chris Rock was really joking or not for me.

I do feel like people get offended at all sorts of Comedy nowadays though, I mean if Will Smith thinks Chris Rock was mean to his Wife how would he feel if someone like Frankie Boyle made a joke about his Wife? Because no doubt it'd be more offensive.

But some 'jokes' just aren't funny , and Frankie Boyle just seems to enjoy offending people. His joke about Harvey Price was mean spirited and cruel.

I know humour is subjective , and there's alot of boundary pushing going on . But it seems there's beef between the Smith's & Rock by the looks of it. And even when people don't react with violence,we can still see when they hate a joke made about them. People are free to feel how they want but it's how they react to it.

Perfect example is Seth MacFarlane who did a juvenile song about all the actresses 'breasts ' he'd seen on screen, they were all in the audience looking unimpressed.

Smith should have just told Rock that his wife has alopecia and that it's not fair to make jokes about her,and then left it at that . Or better still he could have roasted him back . Instead of resorting to getting physical & angry. It's ashame really.

user104658 30-03-2022 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11150922)
how would he feel if someone like Frankie Boyle made a joke about his Wife? Because no doubt it'd be more offensive.

Not these days - Frankie is woke.

Mystic Mock 30-03-2022 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11150929)
Not these days - Frankie is woke.

That sounds like an alternate reality.:joker:

I suppose people can change tbf.

GoldHeart 30-03-2022 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11150929)
Not these days - Frankie is woke.

He's a bliddy hypocrite more like . I will never forget his nasty humour. So he can stop trying to take the moral high ground.

Mystic Mock 30-03-2022 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11150927)
But some 'jokes' just aren't funny , and Frankie Boyle just seems to enjoy offending people. His joke about Harvey Price was mean spirited and cruel.

I know humour is subjective , and there's alot of boundary pushing going on . But it seems there's beef between the Smith's & Rock by the looks of it. And even when people don't react with violence,we can still see when they hate a joke made about them. People are free to feel how they want but it's how they react to it.

Perfect example is Seth MacFarlane who did a juvenile song about all the actresses 'breasts ' he'd seen on screen, they were all in the audience looking unimpressed.

Smith should have just told Rock that his wife has alopecia and that it's not fair to make jokes about her,and then left it at that . Or better still he could have roasted him back . Instead of resorting to getting physical & angry. It's ashame really.

I get not liking certain jokes, I'm sure we all have jokes that cross the line for us.

I just feel that some people nowadays take Will Smith's approach where it becomes a big drama rather than calmly just saying that the joke wasn't for him.

Alf 30-03-2022 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11150920)
iirc, on one of her podcasts Jada has said that Chris Rock has been a problem within the Smith family for a long time, so there’s already personal beef embedded in the situation and I’m sorry, but there is a very big difference between making fun of people for the things they do and say and their illnesses that they have no control over, should Will have slapped him? Obviously not, it was ridiculously over the top, however, I don’t buy into the he shouldn’t have been offended narrative, when a joke is aimed at a specific person for a specific uncontrollable situation, people have the right to be offended if it offends them, since when is people having feelings a bad thing? Is everyone supposed to be heartless robots these days or?

It's opinion's like yours that makes it look like it may have been a set-up with the motive of pushing on with the cancel culture agenda, by trying to turn this act of violence on to being the victims fault, in this
case the comedians fault.

Cancel comedians. We don't want people like Ricky Gervais roasting us privliged people.


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