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MTVN 15-08-2022 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11202085)

Normally people get huffy when they have to say 'men's game' because they think it should be the default when you're talking about football. Pretty silly point because it's not like he was simply using it as a descriptor anyway

Crimson Dynamo 15-08-2022 11:31 AM

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Crimson Dynamo 15-08-2022 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11202097)
Normally people get huffy when they have to say 'men's game' because they think it should be the default when you're talking about football. Pretty silly point because it's not like he was simply using it as a descriptor anyway

he never said mens game

here is Souey discussing it on TS this morning

https://talksport.com/football/11711...-karen-carney/

Cherie 15-08-2022 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11202099)
he never said mens game

here is Souey discussing it on TS this morning

https://talksport.com/football/11711...-karen-carney/

He 100% said mens game at one point

Cherie 15-08-2022 11:48 AM


Swan 15-08-2022 11:50 AM

I think the context is quite important here. I honestly don't think he meant to offend. But my judgement was cloudy at the time, one, i'd had a few beers, two, i was salty about Chelsea conceding in the 95th min, especially against Spurs :joker:

MTVN 15-08-2022 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11202099)
he never said mens game

here is Souey discussing it on TS this morning

https://talksport.com/football/11711...-karen-carney/

He said 'it's a man game all of a sudden now' and 'we've got our football back, men at it'. You think it just didn't occur to him how that might be taken badly especially sat next to a female footballer?

Niamh. 15-08-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11202099)
he never said mens game

here is Souey discussing it on TS this morning

https://talksport.com/football/11711...-karen-carney/

Here's what he said :


Niamh. 15-08-2022 11:54 AM

Oh Cherie beat me to it!

Crimson Dynamo 15-08-2022 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11202106)
He said 'it's a man game all of a sudden now' and 'we've got our football back, men at it'. You think it just didn't occur to him how that might be taken badly especially sat next to a female footballer?

nope

as it was nothing to do with womans football and everything to do with the game he just watched, end of.

and he has stated so again this morning

Swan 15-08-2022 12:00 PM

He could of meant it in the way the players, especially the men, are mollycoddled and pampered too in this day and age. A slight touch and they're down. It's embarrassing.

And i say context is important because we'd just seen probably one of the feistiest, hard hitting matches in quite a long time. It was a dig at the men's game and how they act for the most part imo.

MTVN 15-08-2022 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11202110)
nope

as it was nothing to do with womans football and everything to do with the game he just watched, end of.

and he has stated so again this morning

Like I said in that case the most generous interpretation I can have of it then is that he is simply an idiot :hee:

Cherie 15-08-2022 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11202110)
nope

as it was nothing to do with womans football and everything to do with the game he just watched, end of.

and he has stated so again this morning

He is of course going to say that he doesn't want to end up on Talk Sport with all the other Sky Sports sackings :hehe:

Crimson Dynamo 15-08-2022 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11202107)
Here's what he said :


exatctly what i said

he never referred to the mens game

he said its a mans game again referring to the game he just watched and the fact that this season (by directive) the refs are allowing the game to flow and not blow for every little tackle

Hopefully the women who tweeted will see this thread and send GS an apology

Zizu 15-08-2022 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11202064)
He didn't address Karen once from the footage I saw, that was telling enough :shrug: He had plenty to say to Jamie Carragher, also he was man spreading, while Jamie was perched politely with legs together :hee:


Souness did engage with her specifically on one thing yesterday.. can’t recall exactly what it was about though ..


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bots 15-08-2022 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11202114)
exatctly what i said

he never referred to the mens game

he said its a mans game again referring to the game he just watched and the fact that this season (by directive) the refs are allowing the game to flow and not blow for every little tackle

Hopefully the women who tweeted will see this thread and send GS an apology

he talked about it on 3 or 4 occasions though

Zizu 15-08-2022 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11202084)
One of the top comments from the DT article:

More 'woke' drivel. It's a 'man's game' is obviously being used idiomatically, in this
context, to describe men's football and specifically contrasting the mandate this season
for the refs to allow more physical contact, as opposed to recent seasons. A rather more
pertinent question might be why is Karen Carney being employed as a pundit for men's
football, when she has no experience of it?


I do miss the more familiar faces discussing things during and after games simply because I know how good they were as players and what they achieved .
I wouldn’t have that interest in some guy off the street or an invited football fan .

The blokes do get more involved and disagree with each other .. you don’t get that nowadays as the guys are all on their best behaviour. It really does look as though they are scared of disagreeing with anything the female pundits say .


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Zizu 15-08-2022 12:17 PM

Souness under attack from the Lionesses
 
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11202086)
That's stupid statement to make, she's a football player commenting on a football match. There were male pundits on for the Women's Euro final, what's the issue?


Well the main male pundit I saw in the Women’s Euros was the manager of a women’s football team ( Chelsea or Arsenal ?)..

I’m really not sure why Ian Wright was on there tbh


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Zizu 15-08-2022 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11202111)
He could of meant it in the way the players, especially the men, are mollycoddled and pampered too in this day and age. A slight touch and they're down. It's embarrassing.

And i say context is important because we'd just seen probably one of the feistiest, hard hitting matches in quite a long time. It was a dig at the men's game and how they act for the most part imo.


Exactly


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Zizu 15-08-2022 12:24 PM

This morning

::

“I said we had our game back, it’s the kind of football I remember playing in.”

“It was a throwback and I think our game will be better for it.”

Graeme Souness addresses his ‘man’s game’ comments on yesterday’s action.


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Alf 15-08-2022 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11202112)
Like I said in that case the most generous interpretation I can have of it then is that he is simply an idiot :hee:

Well then he's in good company because Alex Scott and Karen Carney are idiots too.

Niamh. 15-08-2022 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11202119)
Well the main male pundit I saw in the Women’s Euros was the manager of a women’s football team ( Chelsea or Arsenal ?)..

I’m really not sure why Ian Wright was on there tbh


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Why shouldn't he be there and commenting though? I really don't understand why people are so funny about that, he's a football player commenting on a football game :shrug:

Alf 15-08-2022 12:52 PM

When you watch football played by women on the TV, do you ever hear the word "women" or "womens" said?

I don't watch it but I'd take a guess that it's used endlessly.

Am I right?

thesheriff443 15-08-2022 12:53 PM

Look it’s simple womens football is not the same as mens football

Look how bent out of shape women on here get when trans man is competing against a woman and how unfair it is

You can’t bloody have it both ways

Let the men play the men and the women play the women .

Cherie 15-08-2022 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11202129)
Look it’s simple womens football is not the same as mens football

Look how bent out of shape women on here get when trans man is competing against a woman and how unfair it is

You can’t bloody have it both ways

Let the men play the men and the women play the women .



who said otherwise? That is not the issue at all


All Souness had to say was that the physical game is back, no need for the word men at all given it is a sport played by both and the rules are the same in mens and womens football....are they not?


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