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Its a brilliant show but it is of its time. The Inbetweeners came up with a couple of my colleagues recently who are early 20s and they'd never seen an episode. At first that appalled me because it had such cult status amongst me and my friends but then I thought a big part of that was because we were the same age as the characters when it came out.
I don't know if today's teenagers would find it as funny or not but certainly a lot of the jokes wouldn't make the cut now |
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some of the jokes are timeless though, and a lot of it was very visual. For example when one of them went round to a girls house for a date and he barfed over her little brother :laugh:
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I was baffled by this, when I was in my teens circa 2000 it was very unusual for anyone aged 15+ not to be drunk at some house party or other most weekends. So... A lot of them actually wouldn't find Simon's drunken babysitting relatable at all and would think he was extremely weird for it. |
Season 2 is by far my favourite out of the 3. The trip to Swanage, work experience, Duke of Edinburgh awards, the exams and Will sh!tting himself :laugh:
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We all know alot of the jokes in 'The Inbetweeners ' would not be accepted today,the fact that comedians like Dave Chapelle & Ricky Gervais are getting complaints ...says it all . I don't think there's anything wrong with stating facts , just like 'Little Britain' ( which I was never a fan of) would also not be allowed today. |
Tbf a lot of popular Shows would either not get made today because of their content, or they would be made for a "modern audience" where in this particular case the Comedy wouldn't exist, and it'd be a Teen Drama instead.
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You think racist comics would be allowed to do their acts without comment today? Or do you think homophobic comics shouldn't receive pushback? The obsession with a minority community trying to live their lives is just really bizarre, frankly. |
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Chapelle & Gervais challenge things others are to scared to say , neither of them hate trans people. But they're fed up with how far left things have gotten ,I know Gervais especially highlighted that . And Chapelle from what I heard asked his friend about her transition so he could try to understand why she felt that way , which is exactly what more is needed ... education is important & respectful discussions instead of name calling. As for 'racist' or 'sexist' comics , if a comedian is just insulting people then no it's not funny. But people should actually watch things before they call everyone offensive . A joke has to either make sense or be witty & clever & even fun satire. Not just mean remarks :shrug:. Frankie Boyle made a grotesque joke about Katie Price's son Harvey,but it's interesting how he never faced reprocussions for it . So much double standards & hypocrisy as usual. And I've never found Boyle funny. |
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Then you move to the trans community attacking a trans person causing them to commit suicide? I'm not sure there is a lot of sense in that statement. Not saying you're wrong, but I'd need to see the full facts, not the anti-trans slant. So Frankie Boyle - the pretend leftist. Always around when there is a cause to promote but never an ally when a true leftist had the opportunity to be elected. Did you want him to face repercussions or not, because that kind of thing would make me think that the top tax rate for the top 1% should be lowered to allow their wealth to trickle down. Is that how it works again, I'm not sure? :smug: Once again, goldheart, you are conflating things you don't like - trans people/anyone who shows them support, with the left. It's weird, wrong, but on brand for this crazy forum. I liked Ricky Gervais' earlier work. The office is the greatest sitcom of all time in my view, but if you think standing on a stage going "woman, penis, woman, penis, woman, penis", is in anyway speaking truth to power (go and watch Carlin and Hicks then come back to me), or challenging, then you're simply wrong. I'm guessing it's more of a mumsnet routine than a work by perhaps the most influential comedian of his generation. James Acaster summed the new Gervais style of commentary up perfectly (and I'm no fan of his, either) You seriously think that it's brave to come out and mock the trans community, and that no one has the guts to do it? Mental. . He used to understand the differences between punching up or down, even when Brent used to stray into bigotry, he always made himself the butt of the joke, now he's fully invested in punching down. Good for him, he can make his money whichever way he chooses and absolutely none of my business. I just don't understand how some of the wealthiest and consistently performing artis in the last 20 years are being cancelled as they count another £50 million into their bank accounts |
James Acaster isnt funny
he belongs in the same awful stable as Adam Hills, Romesh Ranganathan, Josh Widdicombe, Alex Brooker, Eddie Izard, Stuart whotshisface and Nish Kumar |
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You can twist what I say all you like Slim . And as I said if you don't believe me about Chapelle's trans friend then do the research. She defended Chapelle and she got massive hate for it ,which led to her suicide. The fact that we live in a world now where people like JK Rowling can't describe what a woman is without recieving abuse & hate , should be enough to tell you how crazy things have got with the far left wing. You talk about how wrong it is to belittle and pick on a certain community,but Boyle literally made a tasteless joke about Harvey Price ....a disabled child at the time ,so I don't see how anyone can stoop any lower than that . I know it wasn't recent but it still happened. |
Frankie got a bollocking all over the press and social media when he made that joke about Harvey, let’s not rewrite history to fit your narrative now
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In fact, let me expand upon Boyle, and try and hold a mirror up to link it back to this forum. Did Boyle make a joke about Harvey, or did he use every TV appearance on every TV channel to bring up Harvey? Lorraine: Good morning Frankie, so you've got a new stand up out at the moment? FB - Forget that, Lorraine, what about Harvey? Mock the week - Things you might say on an Aeroplane FB - thank god I'm not sitting next to Harvey Jonathan Ross - So Frankie, tell me about your book FB - What about Jordans little'un? That's the difference, any opportunity you get, regardless of the thread - DUN DUN DUN -TRANS PEOPLE. it's fcuking beyond weird. Like I said, if someone has concerns or things they don't understand about the trans community - fair enough, I understand that, but if you're using every single stupid opportunity to bring them into every discussion, trawling mumsnet and facebook, looking for any old transphobic sh1t you can find, then at that point, you've gone well beyond any genuine concern or lack of understanding. That's the approach that white supremacist show towards non-whites, and the same approach that homophobic people take towards gay people. That's where you're at. I've steered away from this nonsense discussion, because to be honest, it fcuking depresses me that people I like and think are genuinely good people, are so blinded by this nonsense, that I just don't want to deal with it, but there just comes a point where enough is enough. |
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Amy Schumer's special was 99% sex jokes ,and non of them were comedic. But she wouldn't accept that she's just NOT FUNNY. Yes some jokes are cringey & below the belt ,and I don't find everything Chapelle & Gervais does funny . However I still like some of their work . |
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My honest thoughts on Chappelle and Gervais' specials... I think Chappelle has a lot to say in his and he does it well. I generally find that people take him too much at face value and miss the larger commentary being made. I don't agree with it word for word but I think it's a great piece of work.
Gervais' special I found lazy and low-hanging fruit. I don't think I admitted that at the time, maybe even to myself. Tribalism eh! He has previous standup shows that are near-perfect which makes it especially glaring. It felt like an easy paycheque. |
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Complex and hard to parody? |
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For clarity on my position these days... I think a lot of the current trans zeitgeist is flippant about women's very real concerns and a travesty when it comes to child and adolescent mental health. And I think there's a very vocal and determined community that is deliberately putting up barriers to proper study of the various issues that is proving disastrous (for everyone). But I also accept and recognise - to be blunt - that large part of the trans community are psychologically vulnerable and there are massive undercurrents of trauma and poor overall mental health. I think it's being handled terribly by health services and authorities, just as the associated practicalities are being handled very poorly and women's voices are often being ignored and demonised. Given all of that - I think ther s a limit to how much parody seems reasonable in lieu of actual compassionate adult conversations about the issues. Chappelle's felt largely like highlighting the issue, not in a way that everyone will like, but there was nuance to it. Ricky's felt too easy, lacked any new or insightful comment, and thus it felt like... Low hanging fruit. Populism. |
i think Chappelle's humour is much deeper than many of today's audience are capable of understanding. I'm sure the audience didn't used to be so thick
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