in fairness every political party does the same, and if we had a PR system, it would be a lot worse :laugh:

Nothing could be worse than this failing first past the post.

PR is coming.
Maybe not in a manifesto for the coming election but it is coming.
The overwhelming vote for it at Labours last 2 conferences will not now go away.

I came round to PR years ago now.
It couldn't be in any way worse than this system now.

The only people strongly against PR are likely to be in the main, hard-line Con supporters, hard-line Con members and the Con party itself.
The ONLY Party that is against it of all Parties in existence are the Cons.

Because they know they'll NEVER again have absolute power to create the extreme hard-line governing they've done in recent years.
Rightly they'd never get absolute power alone and equally so rightly neither would Labour.
Or in fact any other Party.

They'd need more consensus policies to govern with other, like minded policies, Parties.

Why Starmer won't do it now as policy in the coming election is puzzling to me.
He'd guarantee walking the next election with the LibDems and all other Parties on board with him.
That would be a real positive change in politics.
I can't wait for it.

It's not the full answer to all the political set up issues but it will be the strongest start to being.
The Cons, their members, their hard-line supporters would be messing themselves.