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joeysteele 20-07-2023 10:44 PM

I still will be surprised, ( although pleasantly) if the Cons lose Selby and Ainsty.
No way at all should they even come close to losing it.
It's one of the most solid of Con seats.

Labour must take Uxbridge and Ruislip.
That would be a backward step if they didn't.

Somerton and Frome has been and was LibDem up to 2015, I'd expect that to return to them.

arista 20-07-2023 10:54 PM

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/l...9edb44dce8.png

arista 20-07-2023 11:05 PM

Sarah Joanne Dyke - Lib Dems

Lib Dems Claim they have won Somerton & Frome By Election



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1hF_9wX...g&name=900x900
SkyNewsHD

and BBC1HD

On Radio

LBC

arista 21-07-2023 12:19 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/07...9896592356.jpg

Sunak is waiting

arista 21-07-2023 12:36 AM

Uxbridge and South Ruislip result is soon

Swan 21-07-2023 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11310946)
Uxbridge and South Ruislip result is soon

There's a recount

bots 21-07-2023 01:51 AM

The Tories held uxbridge on the recount

arista 21-07-2023 01:53 AM

Lib Dem Win

Somerton/Frome


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experi...7d45d636af.jpg

Sarah Dyke, the new Lib Dem MP for Somerton and Frome,

bots 21-07-2023 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11310951)
Lib Dem Win

Somerton/Frome

they got double the vote of the tories, so it wasn't even close

arista 21-07-2023 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11310952)
they got double the vote of the tories, so it wasn't even close


Yes

21,187 Lib Dems
10,179 Conservative
3,944 Green
1,303 Reform UK
1,009 Labour



Ref:SkyNewsHD

arista 21-07-2023 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11310950)
The Tories held Uxbridge on the recount

[Speaking after the results of the
election were declared, Steve Tuckwell said:
"This message from the Uxbridge and South Ruislip
residents is clear.]

Conservative : 13,965
Labour: 13,470
Green: 893
Lib Dems: 526

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/07...9904612054.jpg

arista 21-07-2023 02:25 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/07...9882158953.jpg

[Labour are eyeing a 'truly historic' victory
in Selby and Ainsty - but failed to win in
Uxbridge and South Ruislip]

arista 21-07-2023 02:35 AM

North Yorkshire just to go.

arista 21-07-2023 03:07 AM

https://yorkmix.com/wp-content/uploa...r-selby-pa.jpg


25 year old Keir Mather


Has Won



1 for Labour



Labour 18,456
Conservative 12,205
Green 1,838

arista 21-07-2023 03:39 AM


bots 21-07-2023 04:01 AM

so the tories were within 500 votes of losing all 3 of the elections. I think that says it all and it's in wildly different areas of england, which also says a lot too

Gusto Brunt 21-07-2023 06:09 AM

Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. So very true. :p

bots 21-07-2023 06:54 AM

the vote shows that over the 3 elections, the tories are 21 points down. The polls currently have them as 18 points down, so the baseline of voters abandoning the tories is very much there

MTVN 21-07-2023 07:01 AM

Kinda ironic that the one seat they held was the one they were maybe most likely to lose. That stops it being a disastrous night for them and also stops it being a great night for Labour even after an impressive victory in the other seat

Maybe the people of Uxbridge weren't as badly served by Boris after all!

bots 21-07-2023 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11310980)
Kinda ironic that the one seat they held was the one they were maybe most likely to lose. That stops it being a disastrous night for them and also stops it being a great night for Labour even after an impressive victory in the other seat

Maybe the people of Uxbridge weren't as badly served by Boris after all!

the newly elected mp was very keen to say it was all about the congestion charge and never mentioned Sunak's 5 key targets :laugh:

joeysteele 21-07-2023 07:45 AM

I found it incredible that the new Con MP in Uxbridge and Ruislip concentrated more on how Labour didn't take the seat rather than do the now tedious chant of Fishy's 5 pledges.
Congratulations to the new Con MP there because he did hold it against all the odds.
I didn't think ULEZ would make so big a difference but I clearly got that wrong..

Congratulations to the new LibDem MP in Somerton and Frome.
This was spectacular and this is a seat which fell to the Cons in 2015 when the backlash against the LibDems after the coalition hit.
The Cons have nothing to cheer here at all.

Selby and Ainsty, I didn't think Labour were going to pull this off.
So what a welcome result indeed and not just a few hundred votes majority but over 4,000.
Congratulations to Keir Mather there.
He could be someone to watch for the future.

The message really that comes from all 3 by elections are despite changing leaders TWICE from the 2019 election.
There's one party plummeting down while the other 2 parties are strongly rising.

Starmer however who in my view ended up taking Uxbridge and Ruislip for granted a little.
He needs to think hard on that result.
Perhaps pressure Khan too who seems to have let power go to his head as Mayor.

From just the Uxbridge and Ruislip result along with the other 2 results..
The message is, on these figures the Cons are out as to even Uxbridge and Ruislip because on those figures there that would be a hung parliament.
So the Cons out even on that one.
Because no other party at present now would assist the current PM and his current hard-line Con party to continue in government.

Crimson Dynamo 21-07-2023 08:09 AM

Angela Rayner, the party’s deputy leader, admitted in an interview with BBC Breakfast “the
decision in Uxbridge was related to Ulez”, adding: “The Uxbridge result shows that when
you don’t listen to the voters, you don’t win elections.”

bots 21-07-2023 08:12 AM

it's the first sensible thing i've heard her say

Liam- 21-07-2023 08:31 AM

All round a very bad night for tories and polling companies

joeysteele 21-07-2023 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11310988)
Angela Rayner, the party’s deputy leader, admitted in an interview with BBC Breakfast “the
decision in Uxbridge was related to Ulez”, adding: “The Uxbridge result shows that when
you don’t listen to the voters, you don’t win elections.”

She was extremely looking like being really down.

She is right, I myself felt ULEZ could be an issue but I didn't think it would be a major factor as to the voting.
However it was and with even the new Con MP highlighting that in his acceptance speech.
It was odd, because even he looked down while saying Khan had lost this by-election for the Labour candidate.

Sadly no Party is really listening to the voters at present, Starmer is scared to detail and announce what he'd love to, despite knowing and being told what voters are crying out for.
He is relying on a more anti Con attitude building rather than building a really pro Labour feeling from voters.

Sunak too, he is leading a government that in my view is one of only secretive practices and more deceit than usual.
Despite the run of by-election losses with only a crumb given in Uxbridge and Ruislip.
He has come out with not a shred of humility.

Oh my, I'm a Labour member and will canvass and want them to win but honestly what a dire choice this Country has in the next election.
With 2 leaders who as to neither listen to voters nor what the majority of their Parties would like them to do.

It's not wise to just rely on a strong and getting stronger anti government emotion against the present Con governnent.
Which is what Labour is doing very frustatingly so.


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