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user104658 07-11-2023 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11376188)
many of the world governments are not backing Israel either

The ones where there are protests against the government are though. I genuinely don't know if I'm missing something here. People protest when their views are at odds with the government. Western governments unilaterally support Israel. Thus, there are protests against the Israeli offensive in those countries. You asked why there were no protests about Russia invading Ukraine. The answer is because Western governments were already alligned with Ukraine. So there was nothing to protest?

user104658 07-11-2023 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11376188)
many of the world governments are not backing Israel either

This is a religious jihad, and people better start seeing it before its too late

It's a middle-east resources proxy war like every other war in the Middle East.

Livia 07-11-2023 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11375994)
I think this is why the coverage and discourse in Ireland is a bit different to most of the rest of western countries. It's comparable to how Irish people were treated and spoken about not that long ago.

Ireland doesn't have a good relationship with Israel at the best of times.

Irish Republicans supported the Third Reich during WW2. About 60,000 Irishmen fought for Germany. So I'm not sure why Ireland not supporting Israel is a surprise for some.

Stu 07-11-2023 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11376311)
Ireland doesn't have a good relationship with Israel at the best of times.

Irish Republicans supported the Third Reich during WW2. About 60,000 Irishmen fought for Germany. So I'm not sure why Ireland not supporting Israel is a surprise for some.

Can you hit me up with citation for this when you're done casually equating Ireland with Nazism?

Ninastar 07-11-2023 03:43 PM

Yes cause there have been so many marches and protests in support of the jews

user104658 07-11-2023 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11376311)

Irish Republicans supported the Third Reich during WW2.

Oh wow :joker:.

Early on, a few fringe elements within Irish Republican movements pushed the idea that if Germany won the war they would liberate Ireland from British control, at a time when it looked very feasible that Germany was going to take all of Europe.

A lot of people were putting those pieces in place. For example - the vast majority of the British aristocracy.

The quoted statement above is a shocker even considering the source :umm2:.

user104658 07-11-2023 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 11376322)
Yes cause there have been so many marches and protests in support of the jews

See above re: government support - you don't have to march to support something that your government is already supporting. Where is the logic, people?? **** me it's tough being on this forum sometimes.

Where's the march in support of Jewish people/Israel? If you pop your head out the window, perhaps you'll see a couple of multi-billion-dollar Aircraft Carriers and the overwhelming might of the US military "marching" east. They're quite big.

Niamh. 07-11-2023 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11376323)
Oh wow :joker:.

Early on, a few fringe elements within Irish Republican movements pushed the idea that if Germany won the war they would liberate Ireland from British control, at a time when it looked very feasible that Germany was going to take all of Europe.

A lot of people were putting those pieces in place. For example - the vast majority of the British aristocracy.

The quoted statement above is a shocker even considering the source :umm2:.



Seriously :laugh:

OnTheRight 08-11-2023 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11376311)
Ireland doesn't have a good relationship with Israel at the best of times.

Irish Republicans supported the Third Reich during WW2. About 60,000 Irishmen fought for Germany. So I'm not sure why Ireland not supporting Israel is a surprise for some.

Fact. :thumbs:

user104658 08-11-2023 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheRight (Post 11378121)
Fact. :thumbs:

Is it, though?

bots 08-11-2023 03:28 PM

the ira got a lot of weapons from the middle east to support their cause. Cooperation between terrorist groups. That doesn't make the typical irish person supportive of middle east causes

user104658 08-11-2023 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11378163)
the ira got a lot of weapons from the middle east to support their cause. Cooperation between terrorist groups. That doesn't make the typical irish person supportive of middle east causes

And the Middle East got most of those weapons from the US and Russia back when the US (more openly than now) used Jihadis as military pawns.

Livia 08-11-2023 04:00 PM

A report from two years ago entitled: First Comprehensive report on shocking Antisemitism which contaminates Irish Politics, Irish Society and social media

https://embassies.gov.il/dublin/Rela...n-ireland.aspx



From July this year

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antis...article-748823

Tweets from Irish politicians are readily googleable. They include: Throw the Jew down the well.... Hitler didn't kill enough Jews... etc. I'm sure not all Irish people think the same, but it makes me laugh when people align themselves with Palestine because the Irish were once persecuted. The Jews have, of course, never suffered any persecution... right?

On this forum, I have reported posts for being anti-Semitic (in accordance with the definition on the UK government's website and the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance) and my reports have been ignored. I'm not even going into Nicky's nonsense... While I have been infracted as "racist" for condemning Africans who murder children because they think they are witches.

There are 1.9 billion Muslims in the world. There are just 16 million Jews worldwide. It wouldn't take long to wipe us all out, and we still fear it may come.

Liam- 08-11-2023 04:03 PM

The answer to the question is yes, Israel and all complicit governments and countries do want us to at least ignore the crimes against Palestinians, they would however prefer it if everyone got on board and condoned the mass slaughter of the Palestinian people like they do

Stu 08-11-2023 04:47 PM

Just to clue everyone else in: 60,000 Irish people didn't fight for the Nazis in World War II. This is - in fact - the conservative number of Irish people who fought for the British armed forces in that same war.

Crimson Dynamo 08-11-2023 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11375955)

while you also have many many innocent palestinian victims, caused by stupid moron Netanyahu and his lunatic IDF

what makes the jewish people better than the innocent palestinian civilians

and no i'm not antisemitic for the last time, but sorry i can't simply ignore the palestinian victims

:whistle:


DemolitionRed 09-11-2023 07:58 PM

Perhaps more people need to read papers like Haaretz. Its written in both Hebrew and English and is presently doing an obituary on the site for the 1,300 Israelis killed by Hamas.
48.4 percent - have been confirmed to be soldiers and police officers. 13 are described as rescue service members, and the remaining are ostensibly considered to be civilians. Seven were between the ages of 4 and 7, and nine between the ages of 10 and 17. It reports there were no beheaded babies or babies thrown into fires.
Whilst I completely condemn Hamas for the murder of so many people, I refuse to listen to British MSM who appear to be fueling this fire with unimaginable horrors of rape, torture and beheading.

Mystic Mock 09-11-2023 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11378296)
:whistle:


Is this person a reliable source?

You have to be careful with all of the propaganda surrounding this war.

user104658 09-11-2023 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 11380296)
Perhaps more people need to read papers like Haaretz. Its written in both Hebrew and English and is presently doing an obituary on the site for the 1,300 Israelis killed by Hamas.
48.4 percent - have been confirmed to be soldiers and police officers. 13 are described as rescue service members, and the remaining are ostensibly considered to be civilians. Seven were between the ages of 4 and 7, and nine between the ages of 10 and 17. It reports there were no beheaded babies or babies thrown into fires.
Whilst I completely condemn Hamas for the murder of so many people, I refuse to listen to British MSM who appear to be fueling this fire with unimaginable horrors of rape, torture and beheading.

The consistent publishing of completely unverified propaganda over the last month has been absolutely next level... some of it is quite clear fiction and it's copy-pasted onto the site without any sort of critical eye.

Nicky91 10-11-2023 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11380317)
Is this person a reliable source?

You have to be careful with all of the propaganda surrounding this war.

obviously not, just some moron posting for the memes and the likes



i'd more believe actual valid news when it comes from a news tabloid or FOX News or CNN

Cherie 10-11-2023 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 11380296)
Perhaps more people need to read papers like Haaretz. Its written in both Hebrew and English and is presently doing an obituary on the site for the 1,300 Israelis killed by Hamas.
48.4 percent - have been confirmed to be soldiers and police officers. 13 are described as rescue service members, and the remaining are ostensibly considered to be civilians. Seven were between the ages of 4 and 7, and nine between the ages of 10 and 17. It reports there were no beheaded babies or babies thrown into fires.
Whilst I completely condemn Hamas for the murder of so many people, I refuse to listen to British MSM who appear to be fueling this fire with unimaginable horrors of rape, torture and beheading.

I am pretty sure 40 minutes of footage was released to journalists from Hamas body cams? and there was also facebook footage

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-sh...-decapitation/


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