I am really torn on this issue.
For me there would have to be extremely rigid criteria for this with absolutely accountable and firm checks to ensure this is done EVERY TIME to the full criteria.

I'm thinking the possibility of an elderly person, who is diabetic, has other health issues so on lots of medications.
Thereby a strong cost of same to the State

Perhaps no relatives around as such.
However is terminally ill.
I'm not sure in that case, if assisted dying was legal, could that person be then 'encouraged' to agree to have their life terminated.
For more economic reasons and not just personal ones.
Someone elderly made to feel a burden, could come to agree to have their life ended.

For me, just one of that scenario would be too many .
I'm not sure I could feel I could trust the system to ensure that was completely impossible.

…yeah, it’s a very layered thing, isn’t it …so it requires the most utmost of trust and that’s something that we’re not exactly in the company of atm…it’s something that I think has been lost over time and is often taking another dent…so I’m with you in everything you say, Joey…but atm, it’s something that is available but in a form that is only available to those wealthy enough, really…and that’s very wrong….but yeah, trust in so many areas is something in itself that has a an ever deteriorating health….

I am all for people having the choice when they want to die.
However there are some evil family members out there that would/could choose to speed it all up for their inheritance or to make sure the ill person didn’t have to go into a home and drain the profit from any property that would be left for them.
Personally I don’t understand going all that way so dignitas can end your life when you could do it yourself in the comfort of your own home.

Labour MP has set up her Bill,




[Labour MP Kim Leadbeater’s Terminally
Ill Adults (End of Life) Bill
will give lawmakers in the
House of Commons a free vote,
allowing them to decide based on personal
conscience rather than party lines.]


[It's second reading, involving an MPs’ vote,
on 29 November. If it passes, the bill
will be scrutinised by a parliamentary
committee, when MPs can table
amendments. It will later be voted on
by the House of Lords,
before returning to the Commons.]


https://www.theguardian.com/society/...assisted-dying

Yes, you best book your place..........................

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I'm really sad that Esther Rantzen is terminally ill.

However I'm not going to sit on the fence on this one now.
I don't believe that enough safeguarding could be put in place to ensure the fullest protection of all really vulnerable.

Thinking of the mistakes across the NHS and elsewhere as to patients.
I really don't believe it would be made impossible for this not to be abused.

I'd be, if I had a vote on it, I'd be voting against this bill.
I doubt myself it will fail to be supported but I fear a very slippery slope will be taken if and once it passes into law.

That's life, Esther

The Assisted Dying Bill
is now going through Parliament.
Private Members Bill.

A free vote by MP's
but so many are saying Noto allow it
on TV & Radio news.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vln4pn3gzo

I'm pleased there's some really good people opposing this on both sides of the political divide but I still fear it will pass

I'm very strongly opposed to it and wrote to my MP to say as much but he said he backs it. He is engaging on it at least though and is holding an event for constituents to provide views

I'm against this too.

I'm pleased to not be an MP voting on it.
I just don't believe there can be enough safeguarding in place

I am for the bill. I don't think anyone should be forced to face their final days in agony, or a terrifying morphine haze. There has to be a way where people can choose to end there own life, but where vulnerable people are also safeguarded. And let's not forget, hospitals have been opening windows and playing fans on people covered only in a sheet, but who are taking up beds and who end up dying from pneumonia. It's not a secret, but no one's ever demanded an inquiry.

It’s about time we started treating treating people as well as we treat animals in their final agonising days, nobody has the right to force people to suffer in pain until they wither away, it’s plain cruelty

I just hope it fails.
Although I am deeply torn on this issue.

I just don't believe with particularly the condition of the NHS as it's been the last 10 years at least in need of just about everything reformed.

That it couldn't be a safe environment for this policy.
Even wider in communities where pressure could be more evident than real choice.

However at this time too, I don't believe ANY Party in government or in Parliament could present an absolutely 100% safeguarding on this issue.
I couldn't support it for those reasons.
One person pressured or feeling pressured to consent to being killed then it done, would be one WAY too many.
So I'd hope more in parliament think again on this.
From the PM other leaders of Parties and all MPs across the House of Commons.

I think this is a very strong post on this issue.
Although I've found personally that had I a vote Id have to vote again.

Despite a string conflict on the issue whirling round my thoughts.
So I understand and respect that you support it.

However, your last 3 lines, which I don't dispute, highlight too POSSIBLE abuses that could be as to coercion of whatever so called safeguards are in this bill.
Such as too abuses of DNR.

Your post has made me still think on this issue so thank you for your input on it.

Many are saying the Bill will pass on Friday
in Parliament.


Of course,
it is only for Terminally Ill People.
No one else.

And only England and Wales