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arista 16-01-2024 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11408921)
Tbh we all knew that would be the case.


Is he though? Did he last time?


He brought in a Law
Title 42

Biden kept it for a while.


[Title 42 allowed the administration
to quickly expel migrants trying to cross
the southern US border with Mexico - including asylum seekers]

They know Trump gets more done, faster

than old Biden.

Nicky91 16-01-2024 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11408892)
To consider:

In 2016 I got 5/1 on Trump to be the next president, AFTER primaries, when it was down to just him and Hillary Clinton.

Currently, he's sitting at 11/10 favourite with most bookies ... and that's with multiple other candidates still in the race.

Two explanations for this. One is that they think it'll be a Biden-Trump election race and when it comes down to that, Trump will be odds-on favourite.

There is a slight illusion here though because the other explanation is that they think Biden might not run ... i.e. that on health grounds he might not make it to election night.

However I don't think that's likely. I think there are only a couple of even vaguely realistic scenarios here:

1) Trump is the next POTUS

2) The legal issues surrounding Trump result in him being ineligible to run.

3) Trump has a stroke or heart attack before the election. I mean he is 77.

Outsider 4) Biden (or other Democrat) is the next POTUS which tbh might make me believe in vote fixing conspiracies because in the current political landscape... I just don't think the Dems win the next presidency.

we'll see how things go in Florida :smug:


if they are gonna vote for a elitist new yorker or one of their own


and tbh DeSantis did a decent job as their governor so, and tbh under DeSantis the thing with mexican border will also get sorted out

maybe with lesser show for the media's to feed on than with reality star Donnie Trump


but tbh politics should always be taken super seriously, not treated as a reality tv show like big brother or i'm a celeb :fan: where its popularity contests (Trump feeds on all the likes from his deluded fans)

arista 24-01-2024 01:11 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01...6047341869.jpg


All networks in USA and UK
say Trump has won Hampshire, USA.

arista 24-01-2024 01:31 AM

Trump is Live SkyNewsHD

He just gave Vivek a Minute to talk.

He talks of Illegal Migrants walking into USA

A Massive Vote Winner

arista 24-01-2024 01:38 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01...6061125854.jpg
Senator Tim Scott (Red Tie)
attended Trump's primary night party
in New Hampshire.


He was backing Nikki Haley
but jumped to Trump.


Sign Of The Times.

bots 24-01-2024 09:21 AM

that was the only one Nikki stood a reasonable chance of winning. Its now a pointless exercise

Maru 24-01-2024 06:53 PM

Our politicians are either ignorant or pretending to misunderstand Americans' penchant for rebellion for posterity, which has always been a thing. So to try to transfer any acceptance of certain candidates as some kind of serious debate on what they're saying and doing, its the blind leading the blind. When we're very annoyed with any establishment presence, we're liable to vote unpredictably. That has always been true. A vote for Trump is designed to EMBARRASS the 2-party system. That's the point. (Even if he doesn't win...)

Our system has gone well beyond simply forcing its version of moral code onto us (all are guilty of this for decades), but forcing BAD policy of which we all pay a direct price. So even the people who still claim to believe in more govt intervention feel their trust is betrayed by some very unreasonable decisions. Ex: People/Liberals fleeing areas with high COL, taxes, crime, neverending regulations, etc to states with less of these issues... I seriously doubt they all suddenly converted to Conservatism.

Nikki is missing this as well and because she has advertised her ignorance so clearly, she'll lose. Still trying to run on the same establishment flavors is a bad move in 2024.

The GOP are not considered saviors, either. So while it's true the Presidentials have become nothing but an embarrassingly boring personality contest, it's missing valuable context to say it's simply down to fanaticism why one politician wins over another. That's oversimplifying the math. It's also ignoring how voting has worked out in the past few decades. Those elements do exist, however. The cringy af "Trump was sent by God!!!1" shyster campaign ads voiced by dead people using AI, for one. However, it's really not why he's doing so well.

How many people do you think will want Trump to win just to piss other people off? A lot. Trump is an embarrassment in many many ways. However, he's not anymore of an embarrassment than what the US political system has become. Congress approval in the teens and filled with constant infighting (and endless committees and investigations). Nothing getting done and frankly wasting our money. Place him next to the sentiment surrounding the direction of our country and suddenly he goes from a laughing stock to a nothingburger. "Oh no, our media people and politicians are UBER MAD they can't get their way now! Let's do what they tell us to do, that's worked so well for us in the past, amirite?..."

I'm not even sure that Democrats like the Democrats. I think some just vote out of habit, regardless of who is running. Biden shouldn't have been a viable candidate, but here we are, voting for the next old person to enter the US' most famous taxpayer funded nursing facility. What's more worrying for me is our younger generations have done such a piss poor job of producing bigger thinkers than the dying breed... it really *should* be easy, at this point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11410722)
that was the only one Nikki stood a reasonable chance of winning. Its now a pointless exercise

I really wanted to like her, but she comes off as a George W Bush 2.

arista 25-01-2024 04:43 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GD-8kjMW...jpg&name=small

Vanessa 25-01-2024 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11410680)
Trump is Live SkyNewsHD

He just gave Vivek a Minute to talk.

He talks of Illegal Migrants walking into USA

A Massive Vote Winner

It definitely needs to be regulated. I hope he sorts this issue out.

arista 25-01-2024 05:41 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GErbg8JW...jpg&name=small

Maru 25-01-2024 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11411057)
It definitely needs to be regulated. I hope he sorts this issue out.

There's mild chatter here that Greg Abbott/State of Texas are seriously thinking of defying the SCOTUS ruling and not giving Border Control access to cut the razor wire they've put up. I take it a bit more seriously seeing as its word of mouth within law enforcement here. (Only way I knew about it)

The Slim Reaper 25-01-2024 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maru (Post 11411098)
There's mild chatter here that Greg Abbott/State of Texas are seriously thinking of defying the SCOTUS ruling and not giving Border Control access to cut the razor wire they've put up. I take it a bit more seriously seeing as its word of mouth within law enforcement here. (Only way I knew about it)

Abbott released a statement about this yesterday, it's not word of mouth Chinese whispers.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEoV81DW...jpg&name=small

If trump was pres, and California did this, you'd all be peeing your pants. Fox news would probably implode, and yet, no doubt the same weirdos will love Abbotts move.

Alf 25-01-2024 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11411111)
Abbott released a statement about this yesterday, it's not word of mouth Chinese whispers.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEoV81DW...jpg&name=small

If trump was pres, and California did this, you'd all be peeing your pants. Fox news would probably implode, and yet, no doubt the same weirdos will love Abbotts move.

You always side with the globalists against the people.

That's how everyone could see through your Corbyn bollocks and why he got beat in a landslide.

Come back to "us the people" where you belong. You make a bad establishment Storm trooper.

Come join us in the middle ground. We have fun.

Alf 25-01-2024 10:13 PM

Trump will win on immigration alone.

Just imagine how big he wins when he highlights the war mongering and the cost of living?

I'd be amazed if Biden is Trump's election opponent.

They're probably gonna go with someone who can get votes from the, easily led. A box ticking, non-White, non-male, (rumoured trans) Those crazy progressives love identity politics (racist tw@s they are)

Big Mike Obama.

Alf 25-01-2024 10:27 PM

By already not detaining the illegal immigrants he has. Biden has already violated the federal law.

Law written by Republicans, Democrats and enacted by the house, the senate and various Presidents

Not my words.

It's more or less the words of Ann Coulter.

I just thought I'd share.

The Slim Reaper 26-01-2024 09:09 PM

Trump ordered to pay E. Jean Carroll $85m after he raped her decades ago, and then defamed her whilst pres, and then continued defaming her after the rape verdict was delivered.

The Slim Reaper 26-01-2024 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11411124)
You always side with the globalists against the people.

That's how everyone could see through your Corbyn bollocks and why he got beat in a landslide.

Come back to "us the people" where you belong. You make a bad establishment Storm trooper.

Come join us in the middle ground. We have fun.

What exactly do you mean by globalists?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11411125)
Trump will win on immigration alone.

Just imagine how big he wins when he highlights the war mongering and the cost of living?

I'd be amazed if Biden is Trump's election opponent.

They're probably gonna go with someone who can get votes from the, easily led. A box ticking, non-White, non-male, (rumoured trans) Those crazy progressives love identity politics (racist tw@s they are)

Big Mike Obama.

Trump will win because of the votes Biden has lost over Gaza, which will counteract all the votes trump has lost for all the criming he's been doing.

The Slim Reaper 27-01-2024 03:34 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GE0wCXnX...jpg&name=small

arista 27-01-2024 04:00 PM

Latest Poll

Trump: 63%

Hailey: 29%

From CNN HD USA on UK TV

arista 09-02-2024 10:10 AM

Trump has Won Nevada

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...on-2024-02-08/

Why does Haley Lady
keep wasting her time?

bots 09-02-2024 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11414177)
Trump has Won Nevada

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...on-2024-02-08/

Why does Haley Lady
keep wasting her time?

if trump ends up not being able to run (unlikely) then she will be the last one standing

Vanessa 09-02-2024 12:33 PM

Really hope Trump wins. This will be his last term of course. Because of his age.

arista 25-02-2024 12:39 AM

South Carolina Primary Results

Trump Wins

60.8%


Haley

39.6%



Haley just stated Live
she is carrying on.

Mystic Mock 25-02-2024 04:17 AM

I can't wait for the GE to happen.:dance:

Just picturing what Trump and Biden supporters will come up with in terms of AI slander will be magnificent.:devil:

Mystic Mock 25-02-2024 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11408839)
:rolleyes:

Yeah, they were either Russian Bots or Dead People.

Tbf, Nicky isn't wrong that Putin will want Trump to win the US Election, and will be sending Russian Bots on Social Media to campaign for Trump.


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