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Mystic Mock 05-04-2024 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11437369)
If you dont vote them in...you can complain

If you vote them in and they dont do what you want them to do ...you can complain

If you dont vote you have no voice :shrug:

At the very least spoil you vote as a protest

If someone told you you cant vote...would you want to?

Personally I think that's the group that shouldn't complain, because those people ultimately were the ones that fell for the lies of the party in question, therefore are the reason why everyone else is suffering with bad leadership.

thesheriff443 05-04-2024 01:13 AM

I’ve never voted
I’ve lived under a conservative government and a labour government with exactly the same outcome
Just because someone doesn’t vote doesn’t mean they lose their right to have an opinion

Stop worrying about what others are doing and worry about yourself

bots 05-04-2024 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11437368)
sure but then dont complain about the outcome....err Brexit

i voted in the brexit vote because my vote actually counted. Where i live, it is the 2nd most safe tory seat in the country, so there is literally no point in voting. If they lost, i would laugh my head off, but for that to realistically happen, the tories would need to be down to there last couple of seats, which would mean labour had wiped them out :laugh:

Oliver_W 05-04-2024 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 11437376)
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I will be voting.
Mayor is easy, he has done great things since he was elected. Therefore he has our vote.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume you don't live in London :laugh:

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11437390)
i voted in the brexit vote because my vote actually counted. Where i live, it is the 2nd most safe tory seat in the country, so there is literally no point in voting.

In that case, maybe Tory voters will complacently think there's no point in voting. Maybe some disillusioned Tory voters will vote another way. Maybe enough people have since turned 18 who wouldn't vote Tory.

user104658 05-04-2024 10:48 AM

Yes but for the first time in a long time - I do not know who I'm going to vote for. I have some pretty major issues with various policies right across the current political landscape. I can no longer vote SNP. I will never vote Tory. I'm highly concerned about some of the policy decisions I think Labour might make. Lib Dems are obviously a joke. I'm not an environmentalist (too much nihilism for it I'm afraid). I'm not an old hamskin boot so I can't vote for any of the new right wing racist gammon parties.

The perils of the sensible centre I guess ... it may end up being a tactical vote.

user104658 05-04-2024 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11437427)

In that case, maybe Tory voters will complacently think there's no point in voting.

This is half the reason Brexit happened in the first place. People didn't realise the implications, didn't even bother to look into it, let alone vote... 'cos the "Remain" team at the time were highly complacent and passed on that complacency to the public. People thought "leave" simply wasn't going to happen, so didn't get out of bed to vote.

bots 05-04-2024 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11437453)
Yes but for the first time in a long time - I do not know who I'm going to vote for. I have some pretty major issues with various policies right across the current political landscape. I can no longer vote SNP. I will never vote Tory. I'm highly concerned about some of the policy decisions I think Labour might make. Lib Dems are obviously a joke. I'm not an environmentalist (too much nihilism for it I'm afraid). I'm not an old hamskin boot so I can't vote for any of the new right wing racist gammon parties.

The perils of the sensible centre I guess ... it may end up being a tactical vote.

i just can't bring myself to vote for any of the main party's, it was the same at the last GE. If there was a good independent, i would be first in the queue, but there isn't

Oliver_W 05-04-2024 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11437454)
This is half the reason Brexit happened in the first place. People didn't realise the implications, didn't even bother to look into it, let alone vote... 'cos the "Remain" team at the time were highly complacent and passed on that complacency to the public. People thought "leave" simply wasn't going to happen, so didn't get out of bed to vote.

Quite.

I daresay that people who "want change" are more inclined than those who don't - those who voted for Brexit would have wanted the UK to leave the EU, and these people outnumbered those who either didn't care(/vote), and those who wanted to Remain; and those who, as you say, didn't bother because they complacently believed the voted would be for Remain.

So I'd say it's within the realms of possibility that similarly, Labour could just squeak through due to complacency and enough people wanting A Change(tm).

Oliver_W 05-04-2024 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11437467)
i just can't bring myself to vote for any of the main party's, it was the same at the last GE. If there was a good independent, i would be first in the queue, but there isn't

Then have your say with a spoiled ballot. They get counted too, and the more "None, Thanks" that get counted, the more it can at least create a discussion as to why people can't even hold their nose to vote for anyone.

user104658 05-04-2024 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11437473)
Then have your say with a spoiled ballot. They get counted too, and the more "None, Thanks" that get counted, the more it can at least create a discussion as to why people can't even hold their nose to vote for anyone.

I agree it's a better option than not voting at all as it removes and assumptions about the reason for the lack-of-vote... I think really the issue is that there's no such thing as opting out. Not voting is effectively a half-vote for the "bookie's favourite" -- it's saying "Meh I'll largely accept the expected outcome".

Nicky91 05-04-2024 01:29 PM

i never vote in my nation, because my vote is just one vote and our politics is more **** than yours tbh


as for if i have ''no voice'' well there is freedom of speech for everyone, at least that is what i always say

James 05-04-2024 02:01 PM

Yeah, I always vote. I like voting.

Although there was a community council election here recently where I didn't vote, because all the candidates were individuals, not associated with any political party. I didn't know anything about any of them so I didn't know who to vote for.

Niamh. 05-04-2024 02:04 PM

Would you not vote for an independent even?

smudgie 05-04-2024 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11437378)
Do you see the point of Police and Crime Commissioners smudgie.
I personally didn't see the point of them although I do vote for to elect one.

I just believe in using my vote
Near all decisions MPs make or Councils make.
Affect our lives, our family's lives and those of friends and neighbours.
As well as the citizens of the whole area and Country
As to freedoms, finances and whole livelihoods.
I like to have a day in that via my vote.

Not at all Joey. Waste of taxpayers money.
I like to cast my vote, win or lose its good to have a say, however small that may be.

James 05-04-2024 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11437494)
Would you not vote for an independent even?

In this election they were all independents. I think you might have had to choose 4 out of 5 candidates. or something like that.

I would have been making a random selection.

James 05-04-2024 02:15 PM

If you don't vote you still have the right to complain about things. Ultimately though, voting is how politicians get held to account, so if they knew you weren't voting, they are less likely to listen to you.

arista 05-04-2024 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 11437504)
If you don't vote you still have the right to complain about things. Ultimately though, voting is how politicians get held to account, so if they knew you weren't voting, they are less likely to listen to you.


Lucky Dipper

Kazanne 05-04-2024 03:04 PM

Im undecided but no doubt we will vote ,

joeysteele 05-04-2024 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 11437495)
Not at all Joey. Waste of taxpayers money.
I like to cast my vote, win or lose its good to have a say, however small that may be.

I agree.
That's how I feel as to voting too.

Good luck with your vote for Mayor smudgie.

Livia 05-04-2024 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11437359)
I'd say spoiling the paper is making more use of democracy, as even spoiled ballots get counted.

An official "none of the above" says more than a no-show.

Although... I was at a count where someone had drawn a cock and balls next to the Tory's name and as there was no other mark on the paper we claimed it as a vote...and the returning officer accepted it. So if you're going to spoil your ballot, make sure you make a thorough job of it.

I think everyone should have to vote even if you do spoil your ballot. It's a civic duty like jury service.

Zizu 06-04-2024 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11437308)
Weren't you a big fan of Boris though?


Kinda liked his personality .. not his politics


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Maru 06-04-2024 06:00 AM

I always vote. I am in the US and there's little difference in the grand scheme who we vote nationally as the parties always stick up for themselves, so our destiny feels prewritten in favor of one direction mindless partisanship. Locally is where it actually matters.

user104658 06-04-2024 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11437641)
Although... I was at a count where someone had drawn a cock and balls next to the Tory's name and as there was no other mark on the paper we claimed it as a vote...and the returning officer accepted it. So if you're going to spoil your ballot, make sure you make a thorough job of it.

I think everyone should have to vote even if you do spoil your ballot. It's a civic duty like jury service.

Finally an explanation for how the Tories managed to be in power for so long!


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