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Cherie 27-06-2024 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11470398)
Never understood the point of 'spoiling the vote' , I'm just not going to bother full stop.

It is a form of protest, just like not voting, Women died have the right to vote and still dont in many countries so I would never not vote

Cherie 27-06-2024 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11470411)
spoiling a vote takes effort, and you have to make it so that no candidate can claim it is actually a vote for them. Simply not voting conveys exactly the same message without having to do anything.

Spoiling a vote only really means something in countries where voting is compulsory

I have always voted and so not to vote would really irk me especially as women in some countries dont have a say, I dont think my vote will be counted :laugh:

Cherie 27-06-2024 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11470445)
This.

Plus tbh I've never registered to vote anyway.

I will probably do it someday, maybe when I'm not such a lazy bastard.:joker:

Men have always had the vote Mock, its very important to me to use my vote and make the effort (the 5 minute walk to the polling booth with the dog)

I think its sad you are not registered to vote, you are basically denying yourself a voice and not participating in democracy

Mystic Mock 27-06-2024 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11470509)
Men have always had the vote Mock, its very important to me to use my vote and make the effort (the 5 minute walk to the polling booth with the dog)

I think its sad you are not registered to vote, you are basically denying yourself a voice and not participating in democracy

Fair play from your perspective, I understand where you're coming from.

The reason why I'm not registered is down to pure laziness on my part tbh, I know that I should register eventually, but I don't think that it'll be for Starmer or Sunak.

Cherie 27-06-2024 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11470524)
Fair play from your perspective, I understand where you're coming from.

The reason why I'm not registered is down to pure laziness on my part tbh, I know that I should register eventually, but I don't think that it'll be for Starmer or Sunak.

Fair enough :laugh:

I would also point out that there are countries in 2024 where women can still not vote so I feel I would be letting them down if I didn't use mine

Mystic Mock 27-06-2024 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11470526)
Fair enough :laugh:

I would also point out that there are countries in 2024 where women can still not vote so I feel I would be letting them down if I didn't use mine

I 100% get where you're coming from with that sentiment.

And hopefully those countries in question will allow their women to vote someday.

Ammi 27-06-2024 08:51 AM

…for me, a spoilt vote does make sense and is entirely different from a no vote stance…

…a no vote can have many reasons and obviously a main one of those reasons is a ‘not bothering’ stance…but a spoilt vote indicates that this was a voter who does want to ‘bother’, is committed to ‘bothering’ etc…but who is disengaged completely from the policies and beliefs being offered to them and the politics of their country…it’s a missed opportunity for a party to have engaged that person and that’s important to know in the voting system…how many potential votes could have been given because those spoilt votes wanted to vote and wen through the whole process of doing so…

Cherie 27-06-2024 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11470544)
…for me, a spoilt vote does make sense and is entirely different from a no vote stance…

…a no vote can have many reasons and obviously a main one of those reasons is a ‘not bothering’ stance…but a spoilt vote indicates that this was a voter who does want to ‘bother’, is committed to ‘bothering’ etc…but who is disengaged completely from the policies and beliefs being offered to them and the politics of their country…it’s a missed opportunity for a party to have engaged that person and that’s important to know in the voting system…how many potential votes could have been given because those spoilt votes wanted to vote and wen through the whole process of doing so…

You said it better than I could Ammi :love:

joeysteele 27-06-2024 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11470544)
…for me, a spoilt vote does make sense and is entirely different from a no vote stance…

…a no vote can have many reasons and obviously a main one of those reasons is a ‘not bothering’ stance…but a spoilt vote indicates that this was a voter who does want to ‘bother’, is committed to ‘bothering’ etc…but who is disengaged completely from the policies and beliefs being offered…it’s a missed opportunity for a party to have engaged that person and that’s important to know in the voting system…how many potential votes could have been given because those spoilt votes wanted to vote and wen through the whole process of doing so…

I 100% agree Ammi .

The political establishment has taken no notice whatsoever of falling turnouts at elections.

However they have to announce how many spoiled ballots papers there are at every result.

More of them MAY ( one can hope) that more notice would be taken as to spoiled ballots
As to the counters who have to separate them from all other votes
The returning officers who have to announce their total.
Plus candidates and Parties realising the number of votes ruined because people feel badly disillusioned and longing to feel their votes make a difference and are valued .

Livia 27-06-2024 10:37 AM

I'm voting for Reform. I think the Conservatives will be all but wiped out where I live, Labour has no chance so that leaves me with LibDems, Greens or Reform. So Reform it is.

bots 27-06-2024 10:46 AM

my constituency is brand new and had all the labour voters removed from it in boundary changes, so it will be really interesting how it all pans out. I think it was something like the 2nd safest seat in the country for the tories :laugh:

smudgie 27-06-2024 03:57 PM

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I am voting for our local Tory candidate.
He has worked his backside off since he was voted in.


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