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The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11473532)
Being filmed and berated in the streets, having tires slashed, needing police presence at the count.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ng3j1pnpqo

I've seen some of the videos of her being filmed and berated in the streets, and I don't believe they were. They were asked questions about what them and their party stood for. It's impossible for me to have seen every single video, so maybe I've missed some.

If tyres have been slashed, then that is vandalism, and that is completely unacceptable. Corbyn was punched in the face in 2019, resulting in jail for the perp, and yet there was none of this wailing and crying. No threads about harassment, so I have to wonder what the difference is?

The claims of masked men is easily provable, as everything is filmed these days.

Cherie 06-07-2024 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 11473529)
I couldn't believe it when Jonathan Ashworth was booted out by a Palestinian pro candidate, now the MP.

Insane how that could ever be a big issue to kick out a British MP.

Totally crazy. I felt so sorry for Ashworth. He'd worked his socks off during the campaign.

Did you see the clip where he was told not to come into the area? that says it all really...

Oliver_W 06-07-2024 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11473541)
Corbyn was punched in the face in 2019, resulting in jail for the perp, and yet there was none of this wailing and crying. No threads about harassment, so I have to wonder what the difference is?

Was he constantly berated and shouted at, and did people shout over his acceptance speech? Harrassment is usually more than one incident.

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 12:14 PM


The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11473544)
Was he constantly berated and shouted at, and did people shout over his acceptance speech? Harrassment is usually more than one incident.

Yes.

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11473539)
It seems you have no issues at all with the above Slim, I find it difficult to believe you have not seen this report before, as long as we ping the word Gaza around everyone is fair game ....let me tell you something, some of these Indys running on Gaza tickets have no interest in Gaza whatsoever

That is them just saying stuff. There is no "police confirm that 12 people have been arrested"

People want to believe the worst because it's about Muslims. If things have actually happened beyond "I feel harassed", then I will say that's definitely wrong, but as things stand, it's people crying about harassment without any evidence to back it up.

I'm no fan of the candidate up against Phillips, but I know she's a dishonest broker, constantly looking for opportunities of self promotion.



She also bragged of aggressively telling Diane Abbott to fcuk off.

Violent rhetoric for me, not for thee.

Cherie 06-07-2024 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11473554)
That is them just saying stuff. There is no "police confirm that 12 people have been arrested"

People want to believe the worst because it's about Muslims. If things have actually happened beyond "I feel harassed", then I will say that's definitely wrong, but as things stand, it's people crying about harassment without any evidence to back it up.

I'm no fan of the candidate up against Phillips, but I know she's a dishonest broker, constantly looking for opportunities of self promotion.



She also bragged of aggressively telling Diane Abbott to fcuk off.

Violent rhetoric for me, not for thee.

so that is two women lying one of whom is a Muslim herself, there is no evidence yet the evidence is there on election night, if they were reported to the police there will be records, I dont put too much store in the police arresting Muslim men because they dont want to appear racist... not sure you can arrest someone for shouting angrily anyway that doesn't make it any less intimidating

Crimson Dynamo 06-07-2024 02:21 PM

“We will continue to fight. Until death, inshallah!”

This is Blackburn on Election night, angry aggressive ranting

Shocking video here: https://x.com/darrengrimes_/status/1809377497508913525

Can you imagine if Nigel Farage did this in Clacton?

:skull:

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11473589)
so that is two women lying one of whom is a Muslim herself, there is no evidence yet the evidence is there on election night, if they were reported to the police there will be records, I dont put too much store in the police arresting Muslim men because they dont want to appear racist... not sure you can arrest someone for shouting angrily anyway that doesn't make it any less intimidating


So the harassment is shouting loudly? Sorry, but in no world is that harassment.

It's two politicians lying and trying desperately to make themselves the victims to boost their own support imo. The caveat here, is if there is real and actual evidenced harassment against them, then of course that's a real issue.

The fact one of them is Muslim doesn't alter that fact.

Ahh yes, the old, police don't want to appear racist canard. Police are well known to be too reverential of minority groups, but you keep telling on yourself.

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11473594)
“We will continue to fight. Until death, inshallah!”

This is Blackburn on Election night, angry aggressive ranting

Shocking video here: https://x.com/darrengrimes_/status/1809377497508913525

Can you imagine if Nigel Farage did this in Clacton?

:skull:

https://i.imgflip.com/8w3py0.jpg

Cherie 06-07-2024 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11473598)
So the harassment is shouting loudly? Sorry, but in no world is that harassment.

It's two politicians lying and trying desperately to make themselves the victims to boost their own support imo. The caveat here, is if there is real and actual evidenced harassment against them, then of course that's a real issue.

The fact one of them is Muslim doesn't alter that fact.

Ahh yes, the old, police don't want to appear racist canard. Police are well known to be too reverential of minority groups, but you keep telling on yourself.

well you need to take that up with the Equality commission

Check if what happened is harassment under the Equality Act
The harassment you experienced was discrimination under the Equality Act if both the following apply:

you didn’t want it to happen

you were scared, humiliated or offended - or the person was trying to make you feel that way

as a white male I doubt you have ever been harrassed,


with regard to the Police they have a long record of not taking women seriously hence the large number of women who report stalking and harrassment who are murdered, 60 since 2015

https://www.vice.com/en/article/9kmy...rted-police-uk

Cherie 06-07-2024 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11473594)
“We will continue to fight. Until death, inshallah!”

This is Blackburn on Election night, angry aggressive ranting

Shocking video here: https://x.com/darrengrimes_/status/1809377497508913525

Can you imagine if Nigel Farage did this in Clacton?

:skull:

That gathering looks extremely diverse :laugh:

Will this guy be working for his constituents on local issues or will he just be focussing on Gaza, they will soon get fed up when their local services goes to ****...because this guy cares more about a country in the Middle East (allegedly)

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11473716)
well you need to take that up with the Equality commission

Check if what happened is harassment under the Equality Act
The harassment you experienced was discrimination under the Equality Act if both the following apply:

you didn’t want it to happen

you were scared, humiliated or offended - or the person was trying to make you feel that way

as a white male I doubt you have ever been harrassed,


with regard to the Police they have a long record of not taking women seriously hence the large number of women who report stalking and harrassment who are murdered, 60 since 2015

https://www.vice.com/en/article/9kmy...rted-police-uk

Thanks for posting that link. When I've pointed out repeatedly in the past that women are in far more danger from men they know than any perceived threat from trans people, I don't remember you agreeing with me :think:

it's all a bit opportunistic.

I also agree there has been an issue with police , either not taking women seriously, or not doing enough to prosecute after the fact, but this is a political campaign.

However those 2 facts do not under any circumstances, mean that a political candidate cannot be shouted at or protested against, because I watched 4 years of Corbyn getting far worse than this on a daily basis.

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11473720)
That gathering looks extremely diverse :laugh:

Will this guy be working for his constituents on local issues or will he just be focussing on Gaza, they will soon get fed up when their local services goes to ****...because this guy cares more about a country in the Middle East (allegedly)

I agree with the last bit, but it's the same issue Nigel will face. Until they do their jobs, no one knows how they will get on. I hope you've made this point regarding reform MP's, too.

Crimson Dynamo 06-07-2024 05:51 PM

Nigel can't travel on public transport due to violent leftists and Islamists

I doubt any will new Cabinet member can do either due to violent Islamists

And it's only going to get worse as the more emboldened they get following this election

Very worrying times

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11473754)
Nigel can't travel on public transport due to violent leftists and Islamists

I doubt any will new Cabinet member can do either due to violent Islamists

And it's only going to get worse as the more emboldent they get following this election

Very worrying times

https://i.imgflip.com/8w3py0.jpg

Cherie 06-07-2024 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11473752)
I agree with the last bit, but it's the same issue Nigel will face. Until they do their jobs, no one knows how they will get on. I hope you've made this point regarding reform MP's, too.

I haven't seen any of the Reform MPs making speechs apart from Farage, but I think the nitty gritty of being an MP will not suit him and the good people of Clacton will soon see that :laugh:


Lee Anderson has been round the block many times so he knows what it is all about, not sure how Richard Tice will get on and no idea who the other two are

Cherie 06-07-2024 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11473751)
Thanks for posting that link. When I've pointed out repeatedly in the past that women are in far more danger from men they know than any perceived threat from trans people, I don't remember you agreeing with me :think:

it's all a bit opportunistic.

I also agree there has been an issue with police , either not taking women seriously, or not doing enough to prosecute after the fact, but this is a political campaign.

However those 2 facts do not under any circumstances, mean that a political candidate cannot be shouted at or protested against, because I watched 4 years of Corbyn getting far worse than this on a daily basis.

Tbf I dont think women are in any danger from genuine transwomen, those that pose the danger are opportunists and predators who take advantage of self ID

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11473807)
Tbf I dont think women are in any danger from genuine transwomen, those that pose the danger are opportunists and predators who take advantage of self ID

Without wishing to ever have the trans discussion on here again :laugh: I'll just say quickly that genuine trans women were using facilities without issue, and it's only when folks started screaming about predators pretending to be trans for excuses, that it actually started to happen, so unwittingly, it was not trans people who suggested that predators start using women's facilities, it was those against trans people.

It's only fair that if you have a response to that, that I'll read it, but I won't reply. Also, my bad, as I'm the one who brought it up to begin with, not you.

Alf 06-07-2024 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11473554)
That is them just saying stuff. There is no "police confirm that 12 people have been arrested"

People want to believe the worst because it's about Muslims. If things have actually happened beyond "I feel harassed", then I will say that's definitely wrong, but as things stand, it's people crying about harassment without any evidence to back it up.

I'm no fan of the candidate up against Phillips, but I know she's a dishonest broker, constantly looking for opportunities of self promotion.



She also bragged of aggressively telling Diane Abbott to fcuk off.

Violent rhetoric for me, not for thee.

What do you mean "Muslims?"

Why don't you just refer to them as British people?

You know something that you're not admitting to, don't yeh?

The Slim Reaper 06-07-2024 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11473826)
What do you mean "Muslims?"

Why don't you just refer to them as British people?

You know something that you're not admitting to, don't yeh?

Because this thread isn't about British people pretend-harassing Jess Phillips, it's about Muslim men pretend-harassing her.

arista 06-07-2024 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11473554)
That is them just saying stuff. There is no "police confirm that 12 people have been arrested"

People want to believe the worst because it's about Muslims. If things have actually happened beyond "I feel harassed", then I will say that's definitely wrong, but as things stand, it's people crying about harassment without any evidence to back it up.

I'm no fan of the candidate up against Phillips, but I know she's a dishonest broker, constantly looking for opportunities of self promotion.



She also bragged of aggressively telling Diane Abbott to fcuk off.

Violent rhetoric for me, not for thee.

Thats Dec 2015 Slim

Typical of you not to add the date

Mystic Mock 06-07-2024 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11473488)
Looking at the person leading the hated against Phillips, it's a fair bet he's involuntarily celibate.
https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/s...64e4760877.jpg

And his religion words are indicative of misogyny.

He looks like a madman in that picture.:laugh:

Mystic Mock 06-07-2024 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11473501)
No. 2 groups who pretty much exclusively identify with more right wing politics (along varying degrees), so are way more likely to identify with Israel, against the dirty brown people.


Phillips being heckled has nothing to do with misogyny, it's about her stance on Palestine (although I don't doubt there are some that blur that line). Instead of acting as though she is about to unleash unholy retribution on her constituents, maybe she should start by asking why there was a campaign to oust her in the first place, when there never has been previously. Are the same people who voted in a woman in past years, suddenly now realising they hate women?

Same as Streeting, who also is dripping with entitlement for reverence.

My theory being that these could be Andrew Tate's followers that are aligning with Islam over Judaism.

But yes, Phillips being pro-Israel was always going to draw some controversy towards her, but then it probably would've been similar for her if she had've been pro-Palestine.

Oliver_W 06-07-2024 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11473870)
He looks like a madman in that picture.:laugh:

All pictures!

I'm fairly certain he only ever had one set of grandparents.


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