Did anyone really believe labour was the answer ?

Used to be mainly from domestics though and very rare. Now kids are being stabbed quite frequently. Whether that's the streets of London or at dance classes in North West seaside towns.

The dunblane massacre kids killed at school the hungerford massacre
The taxi driver that killed his brother then drove round killing people

All white men from this country there’s always been murderers

Yeah, and there was nobody fighting those people's corner to defend them. What changed?

I honestly think if the social media had been around back then, there would have been. Or people denying they ever happened.

Who the fcuk is going to defend murderers

Look around.

I see evil individuals .

Yes. The tried to assassinate The Donald a couple of weeks ago.

Yes the whole world has evil individuals

…hitting those pensioners who aren’t eligible for benefits but aren’t comfortable financially with their pensions either….booooooooo, always easy targeting and always a shabby look…

What really gets me is that the saving will be tiny. It's not a big payment. If it was going to save them obscene amounts of money that would be one thing, but it's like kicking your granny to save 50p.

it's not just that. Down here, its rare that we get a cold enough snap thats long enough for the payment to be triggered.

Winter fuel allowance is paid regardless of the weather?

£11 billion to overseas green projects. £8 million a day to house people who are here illegally. Cut the winter fuel allowance for our elderly, predominantly people who've paid tax all their lives and many who are too proud to claim benefits. And that's Labour, is it?

f you get certain benefits and the temperature drops to zero degrees celsius or below for 7 days in a row

Less than 3 months ago

Yeah... They're an easy target. Lots of people don't realise they'll be elderly one day and no one will fight for them either.

Okay I looked this up as my aunt is not on benefits but has always got the winter fuel allowance, you are talking about cold weather payments which are an extra payment of 25.00 if the weather falls below 0 degrees for 7 days running.....if you didnt get your winter fuel allowance last year I would be chasing that one up :laugh:

Just listened to the lady from Age UK there are currently 12 million pensioners, 1.4 of those on pension credit with another 800k who could claim but dont, so that leaves 10 million pensioners who Labour think are too well off to get the payment, 2 million of those earn just a few pounds above the threshold in some cases 6.00.... ...:crazy:

and this is why I couldn't vote Labour....liar

i didn't become a pensioner until february, so basically winter was over :laugh:

…technically it was only over a few weeks ago…I know because I was away for a break in June during the midst of it…

Anyone who can claim should definitely do that. It's worth doing.

Ah thats why then and now you will never get it :bawling:

Watch the State Pension Age rise to 70 next :laugh:

the problem is that when you are young, you have a lot more options available to you to get yourself out of a sticky financial position. By the time you hit pension age, your options can be greatly reduced.

That being said, we are still a lot better off here than we would be in many other countries.