…and pubs that won’t bar someone without hearing their voice, that’s so shockingly bad of them without even listening to Kate and allowing her a voice…

Take Ammi's advice

To be fair that’s most pubs. They aren’t there to advocate between people’s issues, they’re there to run a business and if someone (rightly or wrongly) is causing trouble/disrupting that business they remove the problem. Plus the landlord/lady may have a better relationship with the other so will generally take their side (although I’m not sure of the full facts in this instance).

Would you consider writing them a letter to state your peace even if they don’t want to literally listen to you?
Let’s just hope you never end up being in need. I’d loan someone £200 in an instant if I had it to spare and they needed it more than me.

Let’s hope so hey. Let’s also hope you never lend a friend money and get screwed over. ;)

amen

That’s never happened to me. I’m not really interested in your reasoning behind justifying your selfishness but all I know is that a genuine friend in need is a friend indeed. We all go through tough times and I’d rather be remembered as the person who helped rather than the one who gave silly excuses.

You’ll see how it feels if it ever happens to you. Come back and see me with your thoughts then. Until then you have no right to judge me on this topic.

quite the call

I have every right to pass passing judgement based on the contextual input I do have. Like it, don't like it. That is not my problem. You have every right to not like it but I have every right to comment in the first place.

No but you seem to like to make things a problem. Guess that’s just the type of person you are.

If you knew me you wouldn’t have to guess. You’d just know what be-gwanin. either way.

I’d smash the pub up. The absolute cheek

If a friend needed money for food would you lend them some or let them go hungry?

Sounds like you’re trying to convince yourself that more than me. But how about next time rather than a character breakdown of a person on a comment they post you just explain why you’d be different. Will get you a lot further in a conversation.

I’d cook for them. And see what provisions I had for them as I have done before.

I’d also point them to places which could help them long-term.

But a friend with weed is better :dance:

Its good you trust people but be careful with that. You'd be surprised what people will do to get their hands on a few quid. More like stunned

I am very confused Kate, so you lent her 25 quid, then she gave you a tenner to treat yourself and the argument started over what exactly? Are you sure you didn't all have too many vinos :laugh:

sorry are we all just believing spooon fed data?

lol

come on people

This. :clap1:

This is why I don’t lend/ give out money. Just ends up getting you into messy situations.

It’s not about trusting the whole world but just knowing and accepting that anyone can fall into hard times financially (a pretty universal human experience). I’m more inclined to want to do something about it so long as boundaries are respected and I can comfortably spare the amount they need. People being in need is no myth.

…:love:…

…long term help that will maybe lead to that person not having consider a loan etc is the most valuable help …

Yeah not a loan or credit card haha.

Anyway. I guess everyone has their own boundaries and principles about money. Me, my social boundaries are tighter than my financial ones and not being able to give is more indicative of lack of disposable funds on my part than an unwillingness to give or worry that I’m being duped over. That’s a risk that I take when I can afford to. At the end of the day everyone needs money, and people do struggle.