I presume the child has a mother as well :laugh: Anyway that wasn't the point I was making

Yeah no doubt about that lol, it's more about the fact that he must be really missing him. I'm not a parent myself...but I imagine he'll be finding it a little tough as the weeks go on.

I actually think Izaaz will make the final, unless he does something really dumb and ruins it . Welsh housemates seem to go far in BB .

How’s everyone’s view on him after bagelgate?

He seems like the ultimate boring guy trying to be fun/interesting.

Kinda what Ryan was accused of being, only this time it's for realsies.

I think he was genuinely annoyed about it then tried to play it off as messing around or intentionally **** stirring

Meh probably do him if there was nothing else interesting

I doubt he's done himself any favours in tonight's highlights.

He's an instigator of drama. Khaled/Ali situation. Emma/bagelgate etc. Passes it off as being funny and mischievous because he's bored. He knows what he's doing but can't help himself. Yes, it's only a bagel, but little things become heightened in the house. Then he throws a tantrum about being on police duty overnight. Get over yourself mate.

I see him as a decent guy…but maybe trying too hard to get himself noticed. However he doesn’t have the biggest personality so forcing it might be his only way…

It seems odd he has only piped up now. They failed to show so much of him from last nights live feed. He said all sorts last night and none of it was shown.

I don't like him at all so far. He was Mr. Neutral when Khalid needed some back up from his friend and was afraid to give any opinions on anything. Well, that has changed now Khalid is head of house. He can't stand that Khalid is getting the airtime so he creates the mischief maker role to grab some of that for himself. Big fail. :bored:

Probably stole the idea from Ryan

Also about Emma and the bagel throwing he said initially about it "I saw someone upset". Then when Emma questioned him about it he retorted that he actually said "I thought you were upset". Two different things. He either has a poor memory or he's playing a game. The choice of words you use can have a different outcome on the situation in hand. Whether consciously or unconsciously. Intentional or not is my question.

Izaaz admitted he wanted to cause drama,but Emma is not telling the truth either ,we all know she was taken back by Dean throwing the Bagel in the bin ,I don't think she liked him. Throwing the Bagel away and she's pretending she's fine with it.

They're all so petty over a silly bagel :rolleyes: . I actually understood Dean throwing it away,they know what happened with sausage gate . And we all know Lily would have had her grubby hands on the bagel. The temptation was too much ...and they want to pass the task.

The problem is ,every little thing gets escalated.

Oh I know there was a bit of dishonesty on both sides. Emma made out like she wasn't bothered but it seemed like she was. I was commenting more about Izaaz, as this thread was more about him, and his choice of words.

And Emma didn't really say anything about her feelings on the matter. It was more prevalent in her body language.

And, like you say, Dean threw it to remove the temptation away of someone eating it and causing a potential fail in the shopping task. It just unfortunately caused a division of opinion. Some people just hate food waste. If Ryan was still in there he'd be all over it too. Never mind Lily. :)

Can’t stand the geezer, still.

Both Ryan & Lily would be all over the food.

Izaaz seemed more bothered about causing drama than actual food waste, the fuss he made was more about getting a storyline I think for air time. I don't think he liked it when Khaled pulled him up on the whole ' neutral ' thing either. So Izaaz's response is to stir through pot over a daft bagel , just shows how dreadfully bored they must be :rolleyes: . Izaaz is definitely getting nominated,so his little wind up has now backfired.

Agreed. Although I was talking about the division in views as some dislike food waste, which is understandable. Not necessarily his view. Dean's immediate reaction was to remove the snake from the house, as in temptation. Izaaz didn't like the fact he was called a **** stirrer, by not only Emma, and Khaled accused him of being far too neutral and sitting on the fence. I think he's feeling the heat from his actions so get out of the kitchen Izaaz. His actions indeed did come around to bite him in the arse. Maybe not as clever as he thinks he is.