Nathan served up daze and her apologist mum Ali on a plate

Pwnd

Honestly he's my favourite at this moment in time takes no bs :smug:

It's excellent.

I like Nathan, says it as it is without all the dramatics,if anyone can't let it go its Daze, I agree with Nathan Khalid was made to feel uncomfortable.

Tbh him ,Daze & Ali never shut up . All of them love a good argument it seems .

He was…good for him.

He was defending Khaled originally who was getting grilled by Daze for no reason because she wanted to score fake compassionate browny points. After realising this, Nathan called her out on it and spoke well.

Daze then threw a strop and proceeded to cry/play victim: "I don't feel heard" etc. Then said Nathan viciously attacked her. Realising that this was also absurd, she said "oh no it felt like one, you're not even listening to me!"

I think Nathan sees that Daze is pretty sly. I don't even love Nathan either to be honest but I see nothing wrong with him defending Khaled when the hyenas were circling. As someone else said in the highlights thread, Daze clearly has no one on the outside world that confronts her on this sort of bs. So she feels threatened by it and plays the victim when someone calls her out on it.

I initially agreed with Nathan sticking up for Khaled, but he doesn't even call out Ali anyway . Him & Daze just constantly argue like cat & dog going around and around in circles :sleep: lol.

Nathan calls out Daze bs

She either attacks him personally or cries to the group that she is being attacked

Nathan remains unbothered

😆

I think he can be hilarious.
Once those 2 start though, it gets all my concentration.

Daze was the one creating the drama and going on and on. Nathan held his ground and Khaled's ground. I really like Nathan. He is a great housemate.

This.

I actually think that the one thing that I don't think Daze is (for better or worse) is fake.

I think that Daze is mostly genuine imo, along with Emma, Hanah, and Nathan.

Yeah I think that that Daze (like all Housemates) likes to embellish certain attributes about herself, but I think that for the most part what you see is what you get with Daze.

Imo the fakest Housemate is Lily.

He is the very definition of giving back what he receives (but on his terms). Of the people in the house, he's at very bottom of my list in terms of the people who care most how other people feel about them in the house. He just does whatever Nathan does, but he's not so obtuse he's ignoring whatever else is going on in the house.

Did Nathan switch beds. He was on the other side when he was wearing fake tan and not next to Ali.

Did they have to switch around some of the beds because of Khaled moving to the big double as HoH

I'm liking Nathan more and more with every show.

I agree with you here. My perception is that Nathan’s actions were very reasonable. I felt that Daze had already expressed her view on the sofa, before Nathan made his point, so I didn’t perceive it as cutting her off or butting in. And, from my point of view, his reason for doing so was justified - he was defending someone who had been placed in a very difficult lose/lose situation.

Like Nathan, I felt Khaled expressed himself thoughtfully, and explained clearly how he had come to his decision. I felt he handled it well, and didn’t deserve to be verbally attacked at that moment. My perception was that he was trying to say that he had come to his decision in the fairest way he could find, and that made sense to me.

I felt Nathan made his point clearly, calmly and politely, and I can’t understand how it could be perceived as a ‘vicious attack’. In fact, the irony is that Daze’s attack on Khaled was more thoughtless and vicious, than anything Nathan said. In my opinion, he was right to pursue the matter with her, as her comments were not justified. In truth, I think even Daze had recognised that her wording towards him was unfair once she had had the time to think about it more rationally.

He's a great housemate, but sometimes you just need to let it drop :laugh:

Excellent post which sums it all up perfectly.
Well said.

He’s not necessarily my type of person, but I think he’s a great housemate too, and I like him more as time goes by. I didn’t expect to say that, but I’m finding myself in agreement with his perceptions more often than not. I think he is able to stand outside himself, and to evaluate situations in a very rational and accurate way, and that is something I have respect for,

Nathan got a little fixated on the word "vicious" as he knows that if people don't know the context that is a very strong word. He laboured the point a little too much for me but he did so in a reasonable and calm manner until Daze did take it back. Anyone who is a little hot headed would get quite frustrated with his ability to remain so calm during a conflict but its a great trait to have.

Cheers, Joey. :thumbs:

I think you talk sense. He did get a little fixated on the words ‘vicious attack’ which he felt was an inaccurate accusation that reflected badly on him. And quite rightly so. I have to agree with him, and I felt he was justified in pursuing the matter until the words were retracted.

Personally, I wouldn’t like unfair accusations being thrown around about me, and I’d feel the need to address it too. I think that because Nathan remains so calm about everything, housemates tend to forget that he has feelings too - and Daze’s words had bothered and affected him.

…yeah I felt as though he laboured it as you say when it was easy to see that it wasn’t the time for Daze …anyway though, it was all sorted out between them…(…hopefully…)…I do feel that although they have completely different views and stances on things and different way of presenting that, they make an interesting conversation so I’d like the, both to be there for a while to come…I think there may be many clashes to come between them also…