Originally Posted by GoldGlitter (Post 11540832)

Don't use social media it's bad for your mental health. They can't stand that a gay woman is successful in life and wanna drag her down. It's ok for straight housemates to express their opinions and not be portrayed as the villain.

Originally Posted by Garfie (Post 11540833)

I agree with you here, but I think that always happens. The audience of shows like BB can often forget to step back and observe housemates as complete, complex and flawed individuals, and instead reduce them to a number of traits.

I think both producers and the public have a tendency, and a preference, in fact, to assign ‘roles’ and labels to housemates, and then judge all future behaviour according to that label. The narrative generally then becomes quite a simplistic story of heroes and villains,

Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11540836)

I wouldn’t say Ali is racist. I also wouldn’t say she hates men. She’s just seems to have a lot of negativity about people which she always needs to vocalise

Originally Posted by Maru (Post 11540846)

Feel free to skip... People do not actually believe most of what they write on social and are merely followers. Most of what gets written is for attention and to stay connected to the main thread of discussions for those sites. So if that person is not getting enough clicks or feels excluded, they shift the discussion further and further away from the edge than what they would normally believe that feeds into other missed needs. Because everyone does that at the same time in unison, it lends itself to an increasingly hostile environment in the long run and thus the edgier content begins to thrive and track more often... not making it a very fun experience overall.

Of course actual edge cases (or headcases) grab onto this and it helps them to feel validated in whatever crazy views they've always held. The ones that really understand the platforms and how they function get to capitalize and people are being manipulated constantly to accept whatever nonsense views they spew as "mainstream"... I really recommend to spend as little time scrolling such feeds (outside of curious sleuthing) if you're a generally reasonable person.

Algorithms are effective because they're addictive. When you have Americans trending because they're getting piss mad over something the Royals did/didn't do and non-Americans are following US elections so closely they can practically predict emerging talking points just by gut feel, it's frightening. That just shows how easy it is to manipulate people into changing their behavior and thinking by just having them follow a concept... and note whatever it is about, no matter how minor, how tiny, it somehow must connect to some much larger (translation: more relevant) puzzle that must be solved... like it's the biggest deal in that micro world...

Most every new site/forum/community that becomes stupid popular follows this lifecycle and this is why... eventually the users who fish for engagement milk the content until there's nothing to milk, then the life cycle for organic discussion suffers. It becomes a self-fulfilling process after a while... Social media is the "cure" to lack of content since it's seemingly never ending. It's actually better when a site isn't so popular anymore because it's not the most convenient feeding ground for the elusive clout and thus maintains a little bit of its original shine without being completely consumed by modern internet culture.


On topic: Ali is not a racist. There's other more prominent traits we can pick out and fuss over. This is not one of them. I think if she's off the show, she's probably not so overbearing and we see a milder side. But that is the appeal of the show, seeing these shifts in character. Some people take it way too seriously, but I doubt they mean even a small percentage of the tripe they're posting. Challenge them in person and most will crumble.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11541011)

The irony is that these people don't realize that they are just as bad (in some cases worse) than the very people that they think so lowly of.

Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11540819)

And welcome to the hateful side of social media.

People are truly rotten human beings.

Ali hasn't done anything really that bad. People forget it's an entertainment show, a pressure cooker and it's OK to not get along with someone

Glass houses and stones springs to mind

I am truly disgusted by some people, without derailing just look at Liam Payne, Caroline Flack

Originally Posted by Garfie (Post 11540833)

I agree with you here, but I think that always happens. The audience of shows like BB can often forget to step back and observe housemates as complete, complex and flawed individuals, and instead reduce them to a number of traits.

I think both producers and the public have a tendency, and a preference, in fact, to assign ‘roles’ and labels to housemates, and then judge all future behaviour according to that label. The narrative generally then becomes quite a simplistic story of heroes and villains,

Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11541007)

Yes, the hate against Ali is ridiculous. Also some of it I find rooted it homophobia, such as dismissing her sexuality and mocking her for using pronouns. It's sad really.

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11541034)

I’ve been so concerned with Ali’s wellbeing after the show when she’s informed of all the hate directed at her that I raised the matter on this very forum a few days ago.

I stopped watching the show after last Friday’s eviction program as I was getting stressed seeing her so ill at ease and unhappy ( hiding her true feelings) .

Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11541038)

Awh, that's a shame.

I know you have tried to support her massively, but people will be people.

I do tend to go against the grain with people, especially when there's so much hate directed towards them.

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11541040)

The best thing that could happen imho is for Ali to put her mental well-being first and walk out the back way .. it would also give the producers something to think about as they would be losing their most IMPORTANT character … and viewers

It was a poor decision to go into the house in the first place imho


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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11541046)

I don't want her to leave, but I'm probably thinking selfishly there.

The show wouldn't be half as good without her. I wonder what we would watch

Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11541046)

I don't want her to leave, but I'm probably thinking selfishly there.

The show wouldn't be half as good without her. I wonder what we would watch

Originally Posted by GlitterUK (Post 11540811)

Racist? That is the first I have seen that word used...Where are you seeing it used?

Originally Posted by FromBB8 (Post 11541057)

I have to admit, I'm not finding Ali's interactions entertaining now, so I'm more intrigued than worried about what the show would focus on next should she leave.

There does seem to be a binary thing too which I am guilty of - for example, like Ali, really dislike Khaled/Marcello and vice versa. I haven't seen many, if any, who say they like at least two of them. I've seen some who don't really like any of them.

Saying that, it has got to the point where I'm struggling to see any redeeming features when it comes to Ali as a Housemate. As I said, ithe situation is becoming difficult, rather than entertaining, for me to watch now.

Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11541038)

Awh, that's a shame.

I know you have tried to support her massively, but people will be people.

I do tend to go against the grain with people, especially when there's so much hate directed towards them.

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11541075)

:laugh:

Zizu putting down the safety net if she walks so he can say

"well I told you"

Originally Posted by FromBB8 (Post 11541057)

I have to admit, I'm not finding Ali's interactions entertaining now, so I'm more intrigued than worried about what the show would focus on next should she leave.

There does seem to be a binary thing too which I am guilty of - for example, like Ali, really dislike Khaled/Marcello and vice versa. I haven't seen many, if any, who say they like at least two of them. I've seen some who don't really like any of them.

Saying that, it has got to the point where I'm struggling to see any redeeming features when it comes to Ali as a Housemate. As I said, ithe situation is becoming difficult, rather than entertaining, for me to watch now.

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11541034)

I’ve been so concerned with Ali’s wellbeing after the show when she’s informed of all the hate directed at her that I raised the matter on this very forum a few days ago.

I stopped watching the show after last Friday’s eviction program as I was getting stressed seeing her so ill at ease and unhappy ( hiding her true feelings) .